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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vinyafod" data-source="post: 471172" data-attributes="member: 6206">If it is the same, how come that the Dwarven Plate has different stats listed?As you probably have seen, I have listed the stats of a Dwarven Plate and the Stats of a Mithral Full Plate. However, they are not the same. The description of the Dwarven Plate says: It has no additional enchantments.I'll just call the mithral rules from page 243, DMG a template for now. If I apply the *Mithral-template* to  a standard Full Plate, I do not recieve the same stats for it as a Dwarven Plate has. Still a Dwarven Plate, per it's description, is nothing else than a Mithral Full Plate.The Dwarven Plate has an armorcheckpenalty of -4. Thats 2 lower than a standard full plate. The Mithral-template lowers the armorchepenalty by 3.The Dwarven Plate weighs 25 pounds (half as much as a standard full plate). The Mithral-template doesn't affect weight of armors or shields. Only non-armor or non-shield items are halved in weight. (That doesn't really make sense but let's go strictly by the rules for this one).Why is that so? Why two different set of stats for the same thing.Edit: spelling</blockquote>