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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thain" data-source="post: 471322" data-attributes="member: 7215">I've noticed these differences in the past, I just attributed it to the *named* Elven Chain and Dwarven Plate being made by superior craftsmen.Thus, Mithral Plate is one thing, Master Work Mithral Plate another... Dwarven Plate, having been crafted to a point beyond masterwork; is so rare, so well made, and so beautiful that it is something else entirely.After all, a base nonmagic set of Elf Chain or Dwarf Plate is considered a rare magic item. That means you shouldn't just be able to find them in any goblin cavern. In Low- to Mid-Magic worlds [PLUG]*cough* Krynn *cough* [/PLUG] they are the kind of thing I'd feel perfectly justified in not lettign my player have access to until 6-8th level, and magic verisons wouldn't show up until much later.But, as always, YMMV</blockquote>