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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1267122" data-attributes="member: 3146">This really depends upon the elves you're talking about.In FR, there are a variety of elven nations and peoples each with their own culture. If you're going for by the book FR, you should look up FR products to see their take.In the latest incarnation of Dragon magazine elves are hypersluts fit to be found in the pages of a porn magazine or pay-to-view websites. They read the Abercrombie and Fitch quarterly for their relationship advice but think it's too tame.Elfquest elves differ depending upon their culture but tend to look like anyone in a 1980's-90's romantic comedy (fall in love and sleep with each other quite readily but generally form more or less eclusive and more or less stable paired relationships) with one exception: recognition--a compulsion to reproduce with another elf that may or may not be a soul mate (some were but some were rather mismatched--as is evident in the plot). I mention this because it's probably the clearest description of a primitive, or wild elvish society and because the "thirmamin" idea sounds an awful lot like recognition only without the number of stories describing its effect and role in elvish society. If you want a thirmamin based elvish society, I'd look to Elfquest rather than elsewhere.Tolkein's elves were seemingly more monogomaus and faithful than humans. Romance wasn't a huge portion of many of his stories but when it was, it followed that pattern--as do the genealogies and histories of the elves. Then again, Tolkein's elves were only chaotic in the (arguable) tendency towards arbitrary monarchic government--the rule of leaders rather than the rule of law. (And even that was less arbitrary than such arrangements tend to be among humans since the leader would regularly remain in power for thousands of years). Then again, most D&D elves don't seem very chaotic either in the way they behave--the Dragon description of elven sex practices is an exception rather than the rule.If your DM isn't going by the book FR, I'd talk to him about picking one of the various interpretations and going with it. However, I'd be cautious about adopting the hyperslut model. To me, it smacks of nothing so much as thoughtless modern libertine utopianism and running into free love communes in the middle of a magical renaissance/medieval society tends to ruin verisimilitude. (As does the idea that a stable and advanced society can be created with such mores). Removing the expectation of faithfulness also reduces the possibilities for dramatic tension rather than enhancing it. The love triangle is dramatic because the whole group simply going at it together is not an option. Similarly the choice between two loves is dramatic because keeping both isn't generally an option. Even the stories of first and third wives, etc, fighting and competing depend upon a social structure and order that are absent in the Hustleresque fantasy of Dragon magazine.</blockquote>

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