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<blockquote data-quote="Shade" data-source="post: 3242547" data-attributes="member: 287">Yep, ability modifiers become less important.&nbsp; That's why the Con penalty bothers me even less.&nbsp; There are numerous spells to prevent you from getting hit, gain temporary hit points, become immune to near-everything.&nbsp; And that's where Init becomes even more important...you get to cast those spells before you get hit.I'm not saying I'm &quot;right&quot;, but in my experience, Con is almost a non-factor for wizards.&nbsp; The party wizards are very effective in stacking resistances/immunities/preventions so that hit points themselves are much less of a factor than saving throws.Fort saves are never an issue for fighters.&nbsp;&nbsp; And yes, I do worry about my hp, but in my experience (having played an elven swordsman from 1st to currently 21st level), you can do just fine relying on Dex over Con.And in my experience, it's the opposite.&nbsp; Dex is the uber-stat in our campaigns.&nbsp; Only two characters have a higher Con score than Dex, and one only does so he could qualify for a feat (and bemoans his lower Dex).&nbsp; Once again, I'm not saying I'm right, only that it all depends on play-style.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shade, post: 3242547, member: 287"] Yep, ability modifiers become less important. That's why the Con penalty bothers me even less. There are numerous spells to prevent you from getting hit, gain temporary hit points, become immune to near-everything. And that's where Init becomes even more important...you get to cast those spells before you get hit. I'm not saying I'm "right", but in my experience, Con is almost a non-factor for wizards. The party wizards are very effective in stacking resistances/immunities/preventions so that hit points themselves are much less of a factor than saving throws. Fort saves are never an issue for fighters. And yes, I do worry about my hp, but in my experience (having played an elven swordsman from 1st to currently 21st level), you can do just fine relying on Dex over Con. And in my experience, it's the opposite. Dex is the uber-stat in our campaigns. Only two characters have a higher Con score than Dex, and one only does so he could qualify for a feat (and bemoans his lower Dex). Once again, I'm not saying I'm right, only that it all depends on play-style. [/QUOTE]

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