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<blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 423956" data-attributes="member: 524">I believe the &quot;no skill checks&quot; part refers to active skill checks, not passive.If it were passive, any DM with half an evil streak would just have a passive listen check every night &quot;to see if anything's creeping&quot;.As for this whole trance thing ... I think it's extremely silly. I understand the concept ... hey even a movie like Hawk the Slayer had Crow (the elven archer) trancing before combat, but it is silly.It is playable though. And IMC all ARCANE spellcasters require 8 hours of rest of one form or another (does not have to be consecutive - not stated anywhere in the PHB i know of) ... and THEN they need their 1 hour or so of meditation/reading/memorisation etc.Elven spellcasters &quot;sleep&quot; for 4 hours, and must be nice and calm and peaceful for another 4. Otherwise, elven spellcasters should rule the world. Imagine just trancing for 4 hours and then getting your spells back.Actually a militant group of elves IMC uses just this fact ... that they rest for only 4 hours and can attack unprepared vilalges/towns etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dvvega, post: 423956, member: 524"] I believe the "no skill checks" part refers to active skill checks, not passive. If it were passive, any DM with half an evil streak would just have a passive listen check every night "to see if anything's creeping". As for this whole trance thing ... I think it's extremely silly. I understand the concept ... hey even a movie like Hawk the Slayer had Crow (the elven archer) trancing before combat, but it is silly. It is playable though. And IMC all ARCANE spellcasters require 8 hours of rest of one form or another (does not have to be consecutive - not stated anywhere in the PHB i know of) ... and THEN they need their 1 hour or so of meditation/reading/memorisation etc. Elven spellcasters "sleep" for 4 hours, and must be nice and calm and peaceful for another 4. Otherwise, elven spellcasters should rule the world. Imagine just trancing for 4 hours and then getting your spells back. Actually a militant group of elves IMC uses just this fact ... that they rest for only 4 hours and can attack unprepared vilalges/towns etc. [/QUOTE]

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