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<blockquote data-quote="Deadguy" data-source="post: 443412" data-attributes="member: 2480">It's amazing how a little bit of flavour text - and that's all that Elven Trancing is, a means to incorporate the facility of resisting sleep magics - gets blown up out of all proportion until the elves acquire their superhuman status! D&amp;D elves are not Tolkienian elves - they aren't the chosen of Eru, they aren't immortals, they aren't near-deific in their abilities! D&amp;D elves are the mortal kin of the Fey creatures, the spiritual essences of nature. They are mortal beings.Needing to trance for only 4 hours is a perk, a nod at explaining the sacred cow game abilities. Nothing more. For all purposes where the period of rest is relevant - and that really is just spellcasting - they still need the standard 8 hours rest. So, no, they suffer for trancing in heavy armour, and no, they have no advantage to spot sounds when they trance. I vehemently disagree with candidus_cogitens on this point: the balance of proof lies with you and yours to demonstrate what the limits of trance are! If the rules don't specifically allow it, then you are going to have to follow the nearest analogue we do know about: sleep!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deadguy, post: 443412, member: 2480"] It's amazing how a little bit of flavour text - and that's [i]all[/i] that Elven Trancing is, a means to incorporate the facility of resisting sleep magics - gets blown up out of all proportion until the elves acquire their superhuman status! D&D elves are [i]not[/i] Tolkienian elves - they aren't the chosen of Eru, they aren't immortals, they aren't near-deific in their abilities! D&D elves are the mortal kin of the Fey creatures, the spiritual essences of nature. They are [i]mortal[/i] beings. Needing to trance for only 4 hours is a perk, a nod at explaining the sacred cow game abilities. Nothing more. For all purposes where the period of rest is relevant - and that really is just spellcasting - they still need the standard 8 hours rest. So, no, they suffer for trancing in heavy armour, and no, they have no advantage to spot sounds when they trance. I vehemently disagree with candidus_cogitens on this point: the balance of proof lies with you and yours to demonstrate what the limits of trance are! If the rules don't specifically allow it, then you are going to have to follow the nearest analogue we do know about: sleep! [/QUOTE]

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