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<blockquote data-quote="William Ronald" data-source="post: 829599" data-attributes="member: 426">Gez, I will have to remember tht one.&nbsp; I kind of ignored the 2nd Edition &quot;flight of the lemmings&quot; that they put elves through in the FR.&nbsp; (One of the problems with 2nd Edition is that it seemed that FR was having too much of an impact on the core rules.)Joshua Dyal, I tend to see setting dictating the rules as well.&nbsp; The game As for elves in general, I would say that adventurers are rare breed.&nbsp; Think about it.&nbsp; Most adventurers go against creatures that legitimately frighten most people.&nbsp; Some even hunt fiends on their native planes.&nbsp; So, adventurers, and particularly high level adventurers, should be somewhat rare in any society.&nbsp; As for elves, there are also the economic and social roles that individuals must fill in society.Someone has to farm, make goods for sale at market, sell the goods, and run the government.&nbsp; I suspect that your average elf would mostly be involved with the same activities as his human counterpart -- trying to make a living.&nbsp; (I think the various PC races should practice agriculture.&nbsp; Elves are described in some settings as hunter-gatherers.&nbsp; When would such societies develop the time to support such things as book binders and wizards? Such things indicate the presence of agriculture and civilization.)With that in mind, I think we have room to make elves as culturally conservative or innovative as we desire.&nbsp; I like flexibility as a DM.I also think it is somewhat amusing to see how elven lifespans have been adjusted in different editions.&nbsp; Having been part of a 24-year-old campaign, we just keep the aging tables from previous editions.&nbsp; I don't even want to get into the rational of how people would feel if their average lifespan went down from 1,200 years to 700 years.&nbsp; (The equivalent of going from a lifespan of 70 years to almost 41 years.)&nbsp; There are some high level elves in my world, but they do not dominate the world.&nbsp; The effect on level is irrelevant, and I do not have to change a basic fact about a race in my campaign.&nbsp; (I also ignored the old demi-human level limits as they seemed nonsensical.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="William Ronald, post: 829599, member: 426"] Gez, I will have to remember tht one. I kind of ignored the 2nd Edition "flight of the lemmings" that they put elves through in the FR. (One of the problems with 2nd Edition is that it seemed that FR was having too much of an impact on the core rules.) Joshua Dyal, I tend to see setting dictating the rules as well. The game As for elves in general, I would say that adventurers are rare breed. Think about it. Most adventurers go against creatures that legitimately frighten most people. Some even hunt fiends on their native planes. So, adventurers, and particularly high level adventurers, should be somewhat rare in any society. As for elves, there are also the economic and social roles that individuals must fill in society. Someone has to farm, make goods for sale at market, sell the goods, and run the government. I suspect that your average elf would mostly be involved with the same activities as his human counterpart -- trying to make a living. (I think the various PC races should practice agriculture. Elves are described in some settings as hunter-gatherers. When would such societies develop the time to support such things as book binders and wizards? Such things indicate the presence of agriculture and civilization.) With that in mind, I think we have room to make elves as culturally conservative or innovative as we desire. I like flexibility as a DM. I also think it is somewhat amusing to see how elven lifespans have been adjusted in different editions. Having been part of a 24-year-old campaign, we just keep the aging tables from previous editions. I don't even want to get into the rational of how people would feel if their average lifespan went down from 1,200 years to 700 years. (The equivalent of going from a lifespan of 70 years to almost 41 years.) There are some high level elves in my world, but they do not dominate the world. The effect on level is irrelevant, and I do not have to change a basic fact about a race in my campaign. (I also ignored the old demi-human level limits as they seemed nonsensical.) [/QUOTE]

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