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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 832130" data-attributes="member: 2067">I think this doesn't make a whole lot of sense...Baatezu and Dragons are continually fighting things that are EXTREMELY difficult. Adventurers, for one, and the more they kill the harder the groups get.A general of hell probably fights mighty mighty abyssal creatures on a regular, daily basis. After all, there's that whole Blood War thing. And even if the Blood War doesn't exist in your campaign, they're fighting mighty celestials and other planar powers on a semi-regular basis.Dragons fight adventurers, and also probably fight the other powerful monsters of the region. After all, there's a WAY they gather all that treasure...it doesn't just drip from their wings, they've gotta get it the same way PC's do -- beating up big bad evil things in smelly crypts and taking their gold.The rules assume that adventuring groups are fairly common, at least, so people going around 'doing epic stuff' probably happens a couple of times in the largest and most populous areas, at least.By the implied setting, it would then seem that dragons and fiends gain a LOT of levels the same way PC's would......unless you're stipulating that working on a farm for a year is a bigger challenge than fighting celestials or other fiends or bands of would-be heroes? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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