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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 832446" data-attributes="member: 633">Not really... not at those levels. Dragons may every now and then be challenged by a powerful party, but how many 18th level parties are there around? Not many. And even those will only net a minimum amount of XP to a gold great wyrm dragon. How many 23rd level parties are there? We're talking about epic encounters. Fights that get sung in legends for centuries afterwards. You don't get 13.33 of them so easily!As for fiends, pit fiends and the like spend most of their time planning and doing politics. They wage wars on other fiendish lords, yeah, but they carry armies with them... and for politics, remember that fiends take centuries or millennia to unfold their plans - outsmarting a rival devil might net a worthy amount of XP, but again it's not something you do very often unless the threat was minimal (in which case you still don't gain XP).I am aware, though, that the argument is less solid where extraplanar beings are involved, due to the relative abundance of powerful threats. For this reason, I routinely add a few levels to experienced Blood War leaders (and more than a few to the real high ups).But definitely not 20 levels to each balor or pit fiend, no.</blockquote>