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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6226567">By that logic we could say that asking the player to take any action slows the game down.  I care less about speed and more about the DM burden, speed only becomes an issue when the player starts becoming absurd about it.I ask my players to tell me that in regards to anything they feel is important.  Which is part of my point.  If a player doesn't consider locating secret doors to be an important thing to do, I feel it's up to THEM to make that decision, not me.  And no, just because they don't utilize a certain aspect of the race does not mean they should reroll.  I have one particular friend who LOVES elves, always plays elves, she has a thing for elves.  She doesn't care about secret doors, she just wants to play an elf.  I think it's fair that the player should be making the determination on what aspects of race or class or anything at all about their character to emphasize or downplay.  Heck, when I play a ranger I don't cast spells and don't use a pet, because I enjoy neither, but I like the archer concept.It's not a matter of forgetfulness.  It's a matter of priorities.  If there's a "secret door" that is of any value to the party, I will set a DC appropriate to how hard it is to locate after having said something like "You have chased the goblins into a dead end, there is seemingly no way to get out."  And then let the players decide how they want to investigate further.  I had one half-giant with an oversized hammer whose solution to hidden doors was the "hit it" method.I expect my players to be reasonable folk.  As such, if you feel it is reasonable to suspect a secret door within your elven proximity, by all means, roll for it.  I'm not a big fan of asking the DM to be able to do stuff a character can do, but I'm even less of a fan of doing it for them.  I'd much rather my player take the inititive and say "My elven senses are tingling, this hallway feels odd, I'm making a secret door check."  To which I'd go "okay", check the map for secret doors near them, and then see how they roll.All I'm getting at is that I do not like aspects of the game that push what I see as player choice (choosing to play an elf) and player burden (checking for hidden doors) and turn it into DM burden.</blockquote>

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