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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 3568078" data-attributes="member: 892">But if we are leaving D&amp;D elves behind, then we are also leaving Druids as reincarnators of non-elves behind.&nbsp; Where, outside of D&amp;D, do druids bring *other* (non-druid) people back to life in new bodies?&nbsp; Hell, *Merlin* doesn't even do that.&nbsp; He gets pwned like a newb, and at best King Arthur is resting until armaggedon.Either we are talking about D&amp;D's game mechanics and default setting, or we are talking about &quot;Elves in general&quot;.&nbsp; Elves in general are described as long lived (almost universally), feckless, magical, dangerous as all get out, and often insane (by our lights).&nbsp; Or else they are small, friendly, cheerful and make toys for little children under the benevolent dictatorship of Santa Claus, in his North Pole sweatshop <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> .&nbsp; On the non-Santa model, elves usually cannot be directly destroyed (except by certain materials, like cold iron), but can be tricked.&nbsp; Shakespeare's model has Titania and Oberon way more concerned with their marital spat than the humans around them (except as tools to &quot;get at&quot; each other).Look at Susannah Clarke's work for another great look at non-D&amp;D elves.&nbsp; It was hellish hard to destroy even *one* of them.&nbsp; They were slightly concerned about mages...not at all about normal humans.&nbsp; They certainly were not doomed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 3568078, member: 892"] But if we are leaving D&D elves behind, then we are also leaving Druids as reincarnators of non-elves behind. Where, outside of D&D, do druids bring *other* (non-druid) people back to life in new bodies? Hell, *Merlin* doesn't even do that. He gets pwned like a newb, and at best King Arthur is resting until armaggedon. Either we are talking about D&D's game mechanics and default setting, or we are talking about "Elves in general". Elves in general are described as long lived (almost universally), feckless, magical, dangerous as all get out, and often insane (by our lights). Or else they are small, friendly, cheerful and make toys for little children under the benevolent dictatorship of Santa Claus, in his North Pole sweatshop :) . On the non-Santa model, elves usually cannot be directly destroyed (except by certain materials, like cold iron), but can be tricked. Shakespeare's model has Titania and Oberon way more concerned with their marital spat than the humans around them (except as tools to "get at" each other). Look at Susannah Clarke's work for another great look at non-D&D elves. It was hellish hard to destroy even *one* of them. They were slightly concerned about mages...not at all about normal humans. They certainly were not doomed. [/QUOTE]

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