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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6357251" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Obviously, I am wrong for 3e & 4e. I'll grant that. Having not played those editions I look well further back for my origins of where things in D&D are established.</p><p></p><p>But I'll take both BECM AND 1e, your "nearly" emphasis is good enough for me (and apparently good enough for whomever I ever played that edition with). Whether you want to argue those or not, 2e says quite explicitly that creatures effected by bright light were effected by it. From where I sit, <em>anything</em> pre-3e [over 14 years ago] would count as "well-established."</p><p></p><p>However anyone wants to fluff-color <em>their</em> particular drow is all well and good [OO! Maybe drow can twinkle in sunlight...only <em>direct </em>sunlight though, of course, we wouldn't want PCs to be inhibited.]. But there is no basis in D&D lore to believe that the drow sensitivity to <em>LIGHT</em> was a result of some kind of "mystical property of the sun." It was because they lived, for eons, underground and had adapted and built their civilization in very dark places. I don't have my manuals with me (they're in the process of international shipping) but I would be very shocked if ANY of the original Drow lore said anything about "sunlight" specifically, versus very bright light...or perhaps there was some greater penalty in sunlight vs. "light much brighter than a torch". I can't quite recall.</p><p></p><p>Rules lawyering on a single word distinction like "It says <em>sun</em>light...not <em>day</em>light" is really too nonsensical for me to take seriously. </p><p></p><p>Again, as I thought I made clear in my original ["self-righteous"] post, the person who posed the question has to decide. It is up to each person's individual table to decide what is/isn't will/won't be accepted or house-ruled with this. Obviously for some it would be fine n' dandy to ignore or hold to the letter. For me, no dice...but then I wouldn't allow a Drow PC in the first place, so I'm probably not the best person to comment. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6357251, member: 92511"] Obviously, I am wrong for 3e & 4e. I'll grant that. Having not played those editions I look well further back for my origins of where things in D&D are established. But I'll take both BECM AND 1e, your "nearly" emphasis is good enough for me (and apparently good enough for whomever I ever played that edition with). Whether you want to argue those or not, 2e says quite explicitly that creatures effected by bright light were effected by it. From where I sit, [I]anything[/I] pre-3e [over 14 years ago] would count as "well-established." However anyone wants to fluff-color [I]their[/I] particular drow is all well and good [OO! Maybe drow can twinkle in sunlight...only [I]direct [/I]sunlight though, of course, we wouldn't want PCs to be inhibited.]. But there is no basis in D&D lore to believe that the drow sensitivity to [I]LIGHT[/I] was a result of some kind of "mystical property of the sun." It was because they lived, for eons, underground and had adapted and built their civilization in very dark places. I don't have my manuals with me (they're in the process of international shipping) but I would be very shocked if ANY of the original Drow lore said anything about "sunlight" specifically, versus very bright light...or perhaps there was some greater penalty in sunlight vs. "light much brighter than a torch". I can't quite recall. Rules lawyering on a single word distinction like "It says [I]sun[/I]light...not [I]day[/I]light" is really too nonsensical for me to take seriously. Again, as I thought I made clear in my original ["self-righteous"] post, the person who posed the question has to decide. It is up to each person's individual table to decide what is/isn't will/won't be accepted or house-ruled with this. Obviously for some it would be fine n' dandy to ignore or hold to the letter. For me, no dice...but then I wouldn't allow a Drow PC in the first place, so I'm probably not the best person to comment. :p [/QUOTE]
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