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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 9502341" data-attributes="member: 23">The problem, IMO, is not that they replaced creature summoning with a damage emanation spell.The problem is that they changed the timing of damage emanation spells.&nbsp; The 2014 rules were a bit weird and clunky, and I had wondered why they weren't written simpler.&nbsp; I realized it was to prevent abuse of such spells.&nbsp; &quot;and when the creature enters the area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, it must make a Wisdom saving throw...&quot; and take full/half damageSo if you wanted to do damage to a creature, you had to shove it in the area, then move it out of the area, then on another turn move it back in the emanation area.&nbsp; It was doable!&nbsp; but it took work.It appears that in 2024, in an effort to simplify this clunky wording, they enabled the very abuse this clunky wording was meant to prevent.&nbsp; Now you don't have to move the target, you just have to move the emanation!&nbsp; And that is far, far easier to do, and affects multiple targets at once.&nbsp; So to me, the fix is &quot;easy&quot; - use the 2014 rules for such spells.&nbsp; Still &quot;abusable&quot; but far, far less so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 9502341, member: 23"] The problem, IMO, is not that they replaced creature summoning with a damage emanation spell. The problem is that they changed the [I]timing[/I] of damage emanation spells. The 2014 rules were a bit weird and clunky, and I had wondered why they weren't written simpler. I realized it was to prevent abuse of such spells. "and when the creature enters the area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, it must make a Wisdom saving throw..." and take full/half damage So if you wanted to do damage to a creature, you had to shove it in the area, then move it out of the area, then on another turn move it back in the emanation area. It was doable! but it took [I]work[/I]. It appears that in 2024, in an effort to simplify this clunky wording, they enabled the very abuse this clunky wording was meant to prevent. Now you don't have to move the target, you just have to move the emanation! And that is far, far easier to do, and affects multiple targets at once. So to me, the fix is "easy" - use the 2014 rules for such spells. Still "abusable" but far, far less so. [/QUOTE]

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