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<blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 4657599" data-attributes="member: 524">@roguerougeActually the holder of the copyright does not even have to state his material is copyrighted in many cases, artistic being one of them. In addition fair use differs from country to country. For example in the US you are pretty much allowed to enact a very wide base fair use with music, software etc. Here in Australia there is no such &quot;fair use&quot; for Australian materials. Luckily the Berne convention lets us use the copyright of the originating country.@ OldtimerI have used copyright and copyright law interchangeably since the Berne convention set this up. Any outside copyright is given the same rights as any internal copyright within any country that signed up. My mistake that may confuse some readers.@ Bemoaners of lost dataBecause of the copyright infringement, all services Ema offers related to that infringement become a legal issue. Yes he was charging for &quot;storage&quot; of data but that data represented some copyrighted material. Unfortunately in the process all of your works are derived from that material even if it was a character name or the background of said character. Which is a bit of a pain but that is the law in all those countries that signed up to Berne. Do I think that deleting all of Ema's data without consultation was wrong? No. Because even allowing a backup of said data would have implied that WOTC was waiving their copyright to the material on Ema's site.Do I feel for you? Yes I do.Should you get your money back? That is something you need to decide within yourselves. Did you get your money's worth? Do you feel that you did?D</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dvvega, post: 4657599, member: 524"] @roguerouge Actually the holder of the copyright does not even have to state his material is copyrighted in many cases, artistic being one of them. In addition fair use differs from country to country. For example in the US you are pretty much allowed to enact a very wide base fair use with music, software etc. Here in Australia there is no such "fair use" for Australian materials. Luckily the Berne convention lets us use the copyright of the originating country. @ Oldtimer I have used copyright and copyright law interchangeably since the Berne convention set this up. Any outside copyright is given the same rights as any internal copyright within any country that signed up. My mistake that may confuse some readers. @ Bemoaners of lost data Because of the copyright infringement, all services Ema offers related to that infringement become a legal issue. Yes he was charging for "storage" of data but that data represented some copyrighted material. Unfortunately in the process all of your works are derived from that material even if it was a character name or the background of said character. Which is a bit of a pain but that is the law in all those countries that signed up to Berne. Do I think that deleting all of Ema's data without consultation was wrong? No. Because even allowing a backup of said data would have implied that WOTC was waiving their copyright to the material on Ema's site. Do I feel for you? Yes I do. Should you get your money back? That is something you need to decide within yourselves. Did you get your money's worth? Do you feel that you did? D [/QUOTE]

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