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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7815880" data-attributes="member: 12731">That's rather putting too high expectations on what this will likely say.After all, you can already now manually subtract level from every roll from every creature. I don't see why this will not take you at least 90% of the way.Yes, they will likely spam a few pages worth of advice on how this changes things (from how the world works to how NPCs look at you), but really, without having read any of it, I can already tell you they could just have written &quot;...or, you know, how it works in 5E&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />If Paizo really wanted to fully commit to a proficiency-without-level alternative, and to get my credit for doing so, we would see a Bestiary where all this subtraction had been already made for us. That is, all the numbers in all the monster stat blocks having been recalculated to not include level.My point is: Paizo don't get my credit for providing a profiency-without-level game just by publishing a page in a supplement. That still leaves all the work to the GM and players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7815880, member: 12731"] That's rather putting too high expectations on what this will likely say. After all, [B]you can already now manually subtract level from every roll from every creature.[/B] I don't see why this will not take you at least 90% of the way. Yes, they will likely spam a few pages worth of advice on how this changes things (from how the world works to how NPCs look at you), but really, without having read any of it, I can already tell you they could just have written "...or, you know, how it works in 5E". :) If Paizo really wanted to fully commit to a proficiency-without-level alternative, and to get my credit for doing so, we would see a Bestiary where all this subtraction had been already made for us. That is, all the numbers in all the monster stat blocks having been recalculated to not include level. My point is: Paizo don't get my credit for providing a profiency-without-level game just by publishing a page in a supplement. That still leaves all the work to the GM and players. [/QUOTE]

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