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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 7816116" data-attributes="member: 16586">It's not really about choosing wisely. A goblin is still a very credible fit to a 5th level fighter in Fifth Edition. It has a pretty decent chance to hit you (about the same as when you were first level) and a decent damage roll will take a decent chunk of your health. It has little chance of beating you on its own, but three of those little suckers could give you a very bad day if things go south. A typical fighter might have about 44 hit points. It is very possible if the fighter has some poor rolls or does not have initiative that those little buggers could shave off like 20 off that. That does not feel like scenery to me.More importantly you have a significant chance of missing and they have a significant chance of hitting. This has barely shifting from first level. Their hits still very much do meaningful damage. The feel of this in play is very different. I am not saying it is like wrong. It is just different and there are good reasons to prefer either approach.So goblin warriors are not intended to be all that individually threatening even at first level in Pathfinder 2. They are dangerous, but significantly weaker than a first level character. They are Creature -1. If things go south they can inflict significant damage (particularly on a hit), but 4 goblins are a moderate encounter for a party of four. A fighter already hits one on a roll of 7. That 5th level fighter has 7 levels on this suckers in a 20 level game. To me that difference should feel huge.At the end of the day I do not think there is a meaningful way to get the best of both worlds. In game design you have to set priorities and deal with meaningful trade offs. The two games are about very different sorts of fiction and the mechanics reflect that in a meaningful way. There is nothing wrong with preferring one over the other. I am not trying to make an argument here. I just wanted to talk about some features of a game I like that I thought were cool.</blockquote>

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