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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2760903" data-attributes="member: 31734">See, you can't ignore the &quot;seeming intelligence&quot; angle and then introduce the shilelga...shielag...shillgaghe...shill-lay-lee (<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) argument.&nbsp; The only thing you should consider is the caveat of &quot;canot drop below 1.&quot;&nbsp; There's no 'continuous checking' or target, range, SR, or anything like that.&nbsp; Otherwise, you'd have to continously check the range of, say, a charm person.&nbsp; Whenever your victim moved beyond Close range, the charm would end.&nbsp; The easier rebuttal to this train of thought is that the target and range is only use when the spell is cast or when the description specifically calls for it (such as with spiritual weapon).&nbsp; But, nothing requires that a person who is charmed remain within Close range of the caster.Additionally, I put forward the idea that shillelagh actually proves my point.&nbsp; Doesn't the spell 'continuously check' who's wielding the weapon? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2760903, member: 31734"] See, you can't ignore the "seeming intelligence" angle and then introduce the shilelga...shielag...shillgaghe...shill-lay-lee (;)) argument. The only thing you should consider is the caveat of "canot drop below 1." There's no 'continuous checking' or target, range, SR, or anything like that. Otherwise, you'd have to continously check the range of, say, a charm person. Whenever your victim moved beyond Close range, the charm would end. The easier rebuttal to this train of thought is that the target and range is only use when the spell is cast or when the description specifically calls for it (such as with spiritual weapon). But, nothing requires that a person who is charmed remain within Close range of the caster. Additionally, I put forward the idea that shillelagh actually proves my point. Doesn't the spell 'continuously check' who's wielding the weapon? ;) [/QUOTE]

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