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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8552142" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>My question was not about world-building, or how a DM wants the game to feel as they are creating their campaign... the question was in the moment of game play, when all the players are around the table and the DM says "Make a Perception check"... does that statement in any way, shape, or form trigger any sort of response in a player that makes them think or feel "Ah! I'm a Wood Elf!"? And my claim is no, no it does not.</p><p></p><p>Rather, what I believe ACTUALLY will trigger in the player is the desire to look down at their character sheet, see what their skill modifier is next to 'Perception', and then roll a d20 die and add that number to it, in hopes of succeeding in the check the DM put forth. THAT is what I believe actually happens when a DM asks for a Perception check. And even if the player's character has Proficiency in Perception... that does not make the player feel any differently being a Wood Elf versus being just a character who has proficiency on Perception. Seeing that little dot next to the Perception skill on your sheet denoting proficiency does not make you feel one way if you got that proficiency from your Background versus feeling another way if you gained that proficiency from your Class versus feeling a third way if you gained it from being a Wood Elf. I believe none of us actually feel any differently by seeing that dot. All that dot does is change the number we see on our character sheet next to the word 'Perception', and then even after we add that number to our d20 roll and we then hear the results of the check from the DM on what we perceived... we are never going to get that Ah-ha! moment of feeling like "It's cause I'm a Wood Elf that I saw that!" Nope. It's going to be feeling the relief of "I'm glad I succeeded on my Perception check."</p><p></p><p>The numbers on our sheets just do not have that kind of emotional power. They are just numbers. That's all they are. And if you want to feel like you are a Wood Elf, you're going to have to actually put yourself in the <em>mindset</em> of what a Wood Elf might feel like-- and you can do that <em>regardless</em> of any of the numbers on your character sheet.</p><p></p><p>But hey... if you feel differently, more power to you. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8552142, member: 7006"] My question was not about world-building, or how a DM wants the game to feel as they are creating their campaign... the question was in the moment of game play, when all the players are around the table and the DM says "Make a Perception check"... does that statement in any way, shape, or form trigger any sort of response in a player that makes them think or feel "Ah! I'm a Wood Elf!"? And my claim is no, no it does not. Rather, what I believe ACTUALLY will trigger in the player is the desire to look down at their character sheet, see what their skill modifier is next to 'Perception', and then roll a d20 die and add that number to it, in hopes of succeeding in the check the DM put forth. THAT is what I believe actually happens when a DM asks for a Perception check. And even if the player's character has Proficiency in Perception... that does not make the player feel any differently being a Wood Elf versus being just a character who has proficiency on Perception. Seeing that little dot next to the Perception skill on your sheet denoting proficiency does not make you feel one way if you got that proficiency from your Background versus feeling another way if you gained that proficiency from your Class versus feeling a third way if you gained it from being a Wood Elf. I believe none of us actually feel any differently by seeing that dot. All that dot does is change the number we see on our character sheet next to the word 'Perception', and then even after we add that number to our d20 roll and we then hear the results of the check from the DM on what we perceived... we are never going to get that Ah-ha! moment of feeling like "It's cause I'm a Wood Elf that I saw that!" Nope. It's going to be feeling the relief of "I'm glad I succeeded on my Perception check." The numbers on our sheets just do not have that kind of emotional power. They are just numbers. That's all they are. And if you want to feel like you are a Wood Elf, you're going to have to actually put yourself in the [I]mindset[/I] of what a Wood Elf might feel like-- and you can do that [I]regardless[/I] of any of the numbers on your character sheet. But hey... if you feel differently, more power to you. :) [/QUOTE]
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