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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 8553854" data-attributes="member: 2629">Essentially, except my recollection is that Savage Species allowed you to play "up to" having the stats of the monster from first level, where I generally have you start to develop 'higher level' heritage abilities once you've reached a level where it is balanced, and where it will work well with the story telling.  I make these and present them as options to players when they are level 1 if they are in these races.  I have also had a few options that allow a player to go from level 1 and play as a monster, but they're mostly unconverted from 3E and 4E at this point sue to lack of demand.  However, I have updated and used my dragon, awakened brown bear, and fire giant heritage classes for players to use as PCs.  These do allow you to start at level 1, and then advance in capabilities until you reach a level that is appropriate.  The fire giant and dragon are both 20 level progressions, and the awakened brown bear is 6, with 4 bringing you up to level to be roughly equivalent to the brown bear in the MM (once awakened - a little tougher, actually), and levels 5 to 6 being about ways the bear could further develop beyond that to function  better in PC classes (level 5 gives you a second claw attack in a multiattack, the ability to walk on your hind legs at 20 feet, and the ability to use your claws like hands (disadvantage on dexterity or strength skills requiring hands).  6th level giving you an ASI (which is a good place to take a custom feat that allows you to use your awakened status as a spell focus.</blockquote>

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