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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 1482145" data-attributes="member: 96"><p><strong>Random ramblings...</strong></p><p></p><p>Spoilers are marked out for other works that I was reminded of:</p><p>David Gerrold's <em>The Man Who Folded Himself</em></p><p>Walter Jon Williams' <em>Voice of the Whirlwind</em></p><p>Robert A. Heinlein's "All You Zombies"</p><p></p><p>This is perhaps the tightest time-travel story I have ever read (the other primary contender being Gerrold's <em>The Man Who Folded Himself</em>), and after I finished it I had to go back and re-read it with foreknowledge to really appreciate it. (If anybody hasn't done this, I highly recommend it.)</p><p></p><p>Like a lot of other time-travel stories (including the Terminator films!), there's an underlying theme of determinism vs. free will. Doyle <em>had</em> to be in the right place at the right time for all of Ashbless' appearances. Ashbless <em>had</em> to die when he was historically known to do so - which means that at the end of the book, Doyle/Ashbless is no longer guided by 'destiny', but is instead a free man. This is similar to the main character in <em>Voice of the Whirlwind</em>, [spoiler]who, on his second cloning, is finally 'free' of the debt that the first clone felt. In <em>VotW</em> the freedom is from self-imposed restrictions rather than ones backed by the weight of history, but the similarities are definitely present.[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>There's also the 'closed cycle' (which shows up in Gerrold's book as well): Doyle knows Ashbless' poetry because he studied the man...but it turns out that he never wrote it, just copying it from memory...so where did the poems come from? In <em>TMWFH</em>, [spoiler]the origin of the time-belt has a similar loop - the main character gave it to himself, so where did it come from?[/spoiler] And in Heinlen's short story, [spoiler]the main character himself is the closed loop - he is his own father, his own mother, and the person who brought his parents together to enable his own birth. His perspective is a unique twist, though: "I know where I came from - where did all you zombies come from?"[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>J</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 1482145, member: 96"] [b]Random ramblings...[/b] Spoilers are marked out for other works that I was reminded of: David Gerrold's [i]The Man Who Folded Himself[/i] Walter Jon Williams' [i]Voice of the Whirlwind[/i] Robert A. Heinlein's "All You Zombies" This is perhaps the tightest time-travel story I have ever read (the other primary contender being Gerrold's [i]The Man Who Folded Himself[/i]), and after I finished it I had to go back and re-read it with foreknowledge to really appreciate it. (If anybody hasn't done this, I highly recommend it.) Like a lot of other time-travel stories (including the Terminator films!), there's an underlying theme of determinism vs. free will. Doyle [i]had[/i] to be in the right place at the right time for all of Ashbless' appearances. Ashbless [i]had[/i] to die when he was historically known to do so - which means that at the end of the book, Doyle/Ashbless is no longer guided by 'destiny', but is instead a free man. This is similar to the main character in [i]Voice of the Whirlwind[/i], [spoiler]who, on his second cloning, is finally 'free' of the debt that the first clone felt. In [i]VotW[/i] the freedom is from self-imposed restrictions rather than ones backed by the weight of history, but the similarities are definitely present.[/spoiler] There's also the 'closed cycle' (which shows up in Gerrold's book as well): Doyle knows Ashbless' poetry because he studied the man...but it turns out that he never wrote it, just copying it from memory...so where did the poems come from? In [i]TMWFH[/i], [spoiler]the origin of the time-belt has a similar loop - the main character gave it to himself, so where did it come from?[/spoiler] And in Heinlen's short story, [spoiler]the main character himself is the closed loop - he is his own father, his own mother, and the person who brought his parents together to enable his own birth. His perspective is a unique twist, though: "I know where I came from - where did all you zombies come from?"[/spoiler] J [/QUOTE]
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