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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 815145" data-attributes="member: 8704">How wealth is generated now and how it was generated when the nobles arose could be very different, these sheep owners would of been the wealthy and elite 300 years ago, before the clay or the gems or the silkfish there were sheep herders. Just because new and more important markets opened up wouldn't mean they would of released their titles earned 300 years ago. Your using the same type of model I am using I'm just adding in land as important, these people are your old long term nobility, and some of these people might of branched out into the new and more important markets when they opened up but original humans came from these wandering tribes. Nobility is a exclusive group, they just don't let anybody in and once these people became nobility they controlled what was considered nobility. Being wealthy and being noble are not linearly related and having weath does not make you noble unless you had it 300 years ago. The ones who get in are the ones who have the political power, and when you do get in you don't want others getting in either, nobles don't want everybody with a little cash to be noble. Guild leaders and leaders in these newer trades probably pushed their way in but not every wealty gem merchant gets to be noble, if they did then the titles would have no real value. Political power not wealth is how you get to be noble and the original herding clan leaders had the original political power, unless they were wise and got into new areas as they became more important they might not be the most wealthy or powerful members of the city but once noble they will stay noble. As far as land outside the city goes well of course they will own land and they probably have huge manor houses, of course who wants to live out in the country when the city is where everything is happening. The one thing that wealthy and noble will agree on is their distain for the commoners and that will hold together your posh district.</blockquote>

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