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[EN5ider #43] Día de los Dinosaurios Muertos
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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 7684889" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Well, yes the idiosyncrasies are subjective, but there are subtleties and things that just feel wrong when they are said by someone who doesn't belong to the group. -the merchant's part-. I don't know how to say it better, so I will go with an example: pilli adventure <a href="http://pilli-adventure.com/" target="_blank">http://pilli-adventure.com/</a> it is a webcomic with a lot of "Mexican fantasy", it is fun but a little over the top. Now if this was written by an American, a Puertorican or a Spanish it would be downright offensive (this is what Tvtropes calls N-word privileges), and not only because it was made by an outsider, but because it would lack the little subtle things that tell you you are part of the joke instead of being laughed at. But if what you produce is less flashy and more subtle you could be fine. </p><p>Warning: it isn't too charitable to Americans and it has some misspellings and grammar mistakes all the way.</p><p></p><p>In general I could give some suggestions: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Don't treat everyday things as if they were exotic or mystic. If you want to feature a culture's mistica depict the culture's mistica, don't mistify what is a current living religious tradition -more so with day of the dead, day of the dead is about the most important religious holiday for Mexicans, the only one recognized by the government besides Christmas-. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Avoid stereotypes at all costs, chihuahuas might come from the North of Mexico, but are far from being popular with the populace. The most common kind of dog is the mutt, and the poodle and cocker are about very common. And the national breed is the Xolo, which is a beautiful animal.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Recognize diversity, don't go for exotic names for the sake of exotic names. What is Mexican culture is actually Mestizo Mexican Culture, which has a lot of variation. And don't get started into indigenous cultures, of which there are hundreds. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get informants, one or two people who can tell you if what you are doing is offensive to themselves or to people they know or if they fit with the general idiosyncrasy of their culture. Go for a lot of primary sources. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Be very careful with negative depictions. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Avoid the gratuite use of symbols. Don't take symbols out of their context. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Make sure that the work has some substance besides it being about x-mythology or x-culture. The basic idea of the adventure has a lot of merit -zombie dinosaurs!-, and it is ambitious, but the execution was a stereotype storm of decontextualized symbols.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Encourage senders to depict their own culture, you might be surprised. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> This is only my opinion, we could enrich it with more opinions.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is, some cultures get only the sterotypes. All depictions are the caricature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 7684889, member: 6689464"] Well, yes the idiosyncrasies are subjective, but there are subtleties and things that just feel wrong when they are said by someone who doesn't belong to the group. -the merchant's part-. I don't know how to say it better, so I will go with an example: pilli adventure [url]http://pilli-adventure.com/[/url] it is a webcomic with a lot of "Mexican fantasy", it is fun but a little over the top. Now if this was written by an American, a Puertorican or a Spanish it would be downright offensive (this is what Tvtropes calls N-word privileges), and not only because it was made by an outsider, but because it would lack the little subtle things that tell you you are part of the joke instead of being laughed at. But if what you produce is less flashy and more subtle you could be fine. Warning: it isn't too charitable to Americans and it has some misspellings and grammar mistakes all the way. In general I could give some suggestions: [LIST] [*]Don't treat everyday things as if they were exotic or mystic. If you want to feature a culture's mistica depict the culture's mistica, don't mistify what is a current living religious tradition -more so with day of the dead, day of the dead is about the most important religious holiday for Mexicans, the only one recognized by the government besides Christmas-. [*]Avoid stereotypes at all costs, chihuahuas might come from the North of Mexico, but are far from being popular with the populace. The most common kind of dog is the mutt, and the poodle and cocker are about very common. And the national breed is the Xolo, which is a beautiful animal. [*]Recognize diversity, don't go for exotic names for the sake of exotic names. What is Mexican culture is actually Mestizo Mexican Culture, which has a lot of variation. And don't get started into indigenous cultures, of which there are hundreds. [*]Get informants, one or two people who can tell you if what you are doing is offensive to themselves or to people they know or if they fit with the general idiosyncrasy of their culture. Go for a lot of primary sources. [*]Be very careful with negative depictions. [*]Avoid the gratuite use of symbols. Don't take symbols out of their context. [*]Make sure that the work has some substance besides it being about x-mythology or x-culture. The basic idea of the adventure has a lot of merit -zombie dinosaurs!-, and it is ambitious, but the execution was a stereotype storm of decontextualized symbols. [*]Encourage senders to depict their own culture, you might be surprised. [*] This is only my opinion, we could enrich it with more opinions. [/LIST] The problem is, some cultures get only the sterotypes. All depictions are the caricature. [/QUOTE]
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