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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5695628" data-attributes="member: 6674931">LOL... It's funny how you don't give up.A few minutes ago I PROMISED myself I won't continue this discussion (After all... i did say "Over and Out")......but your futile stubbornness combined with an idea of a riddle that has just sprung to mind brought me back.So here's the riddle I want you to solve Mr. Jack smith:SRD FACTS:1)Undead TypeUndead are once-living creatures animated by spiritual or supernatural forces.Skill points equal to (4 + Int modifier, minimum 1) per Hit Die, with quadruple skill points for the first Hit Die, if the undead creature has an Intelligence score. However, many undead are mindless and gain no skill points or feats.Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects).2)SkeletonSkeletons are the animated bones of the dead, mindless automatons that obey the orders of their evil masters.A skeleton does only what it is ordered to do. It can draw no conclusions of its own and takes no initiative. Because of this limitation, its instructions must always be simple. A skeleton attacks until destroyed.Abilities:    Str 23, Dex 16, Con Ø, Int Ø, Wis 10, Cha 13)Zombie Zombies are corpses reanimated through dark and sinister magic.Because of their utter lack of intelligence, the instructions given to a newly created zombie must be very simple.Str 12, Dex 8, Con Ø, Int Ø, Wis 10, Cha 14)Evil Clerics and UndeadEvil clerics channel negative energy to rebuke (awe) or command (control) undead rather than channeling positive energy to turn or destroy them. An evil cleric makes the equivalent of a turning check. Undead that would be turned are rebuked instead, and those that would be destroyed are commanded.CommandedA commanded undead creature is under the mental control of the evil cleric. The cleric must take a standard action to give mental orders to a commanded undead. At any one time, the cleric may command any number of undead whose total Hit Dice do not exceed his level. He may voluntarily relinquish command on any commanded undead creature or creatures in order to command new ones.And here comes the question:Since an evil cleric can naturally command a skeleton or zombie, and since you do NOT agree with my interpretation of "mental control" [which is: The cleric mentally (by giving orders mentally - by using HIS mind) commands the undead], I want you to explain me this.How is it possible for an evil cleric to "mentally control" (as in: controlling the mind of the undead = your interpretation) a skeleton or zombie. Creatures which are: Officially mindless, with an Intelligence of 0, and with Immunity to all mind-affecting effects.??????????Good luck solving the riddle Jack!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Now I'm REALY over and out.</blockquote>

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