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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9332801" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>It is not just for levelling balance. Multiple classes and/or subclasses depend on getting enough rounds of combat per long rest, or enough short rests per long rest, in order to keep up with other classes.</p><p></p><p>Paladins will absolutely smoke Battle Masters if the party only does three combats a day with one short rest in the middle. And if you only get (say) 15 combat rounds per long rest, the Champion simply cannot keep up with even the Battle Master, let alone the Paladin. (1/19 non-crits become crits, that's at best 4d6 extra damage on average for the entire day, while the BM is rocking minimum 4d8, and probably more like 8d8, advancing to d10s quite soon, because there's almost certainly <em>one</em> short rest per long rest.)</p><p></p><p>5-8 encounters where all (5) or almost all (8) of them are combat was a predicate for class balance, and Crawford himself openly admitted that they needed to go back and fix the Warlock and other short-rest classes specifically because people don't do enough combats per long rest and don't take enough short rests per long rest. SR classes fall behind LR classes in the way most 5e players play the game. That's why 5.5e Warlock got a minor but meaningful buff, being able to recharge a few (IMO far too few) slots without a rest once per LR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9332801, member: 6790260"] It is not just for levelling balance. Multiple classes and/or subclasses depend on getting enough rounds of combat per long rest, or enough short rests per long rest, in order to keep up with other classes. Paladins will absolutely smoke Battle Masters if the party only does three combats a day with one short rest in the middle. And if you only get (say) 15 combat rounds per long rest, the Champion simply cannot keep up with even the Battle Master, let alone the Paladin. (1/19 non-crits become crits, that's at best 4d6 extra damage on average for the entire day, while the BM is rocking minimum 4d8, and probably more like 8d8, advancing to d10s quite soon, because there's almost certainly [I]one[/I] short rest per long rest.) 5-8 encounters where all (5) or almost all (8) of them are combat was a predicate for class balance, and Crawford himself openly admitted that they needed to go back and fix the Warlock and other short-rest classes specifically because people don't do enough combats per long rest and don't take enough short rests per long rest. SR classes fall behind LR classes in the way most 5e players play the game. That's why 5.5e Warlock got a minor but meaningful buff, being able to recharge a few (IMO far too few) slots without a rest once per LR. [/QUOTE]
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