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<blockquote data-quote="Herschel" data-source="post: 5968274" data-attributes="member: 78357">The boards show that a whole bunch of people want or like something along that vein, even if they didn't like the implementation&nbsp; for whatever reason. Even people who didn't like 4E saw problems and are suggesting similar ideas for correcting it. So no, it's not a &quot;bold statement&quot; it's factual they took steps to resolve issues people saw, and in a general direction that we see many people actually wanted but didn't like the final implementation. The old saying is &quot;don't throw the baby out with the bath water&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Then your group was, quite frankly, pretty lousy at picking powers that truly packed the most punch. Most of the best Wizard dailies, for example, require sustaining and make using multiples in an encounter really a tough (and outright bad) choice. Then again, I noticed in multiple groups and public play there was a learning curve from people who played previous editions for a long time to not look at immediate and self damage and see the bigger picture. My Warlord, for example, using Encounter Powers in concert with another ranged attacker using only at-wills does a lot more aggregate damage than both of us using &quot;selfish&quot; Dailies. &nbsp;It isn't the perfect solution, and I've had a group try the old 15-minute work day but once they got a better understanding of the system they found out that really weren't making very good choices.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herschel, post: 5968274, member: 78357"] The boards show that a whole bunch of people want or like something along that vein, even if they didn't like the implementation for whatever reason. Even people who didn't like 4E saw problems and are suggesting similar ideas for correcting it. So no, it's not a "bold statement" it's factual they took steps to resolve issues people saw, and in a general direction that we see many people actually wanted but didn't like the final implementation. The old saying is "don't throw the baby out with the bath water". Then your group was, quite frankly, pretty lousy at picking powers that truly packed the most punch. Most of the best Wizard dailies, for example, require sustaining and make using multiples in an encounter really a tough (and outright bad) choice. Then again, I noticed in multiple groups and public play there was a learning curve from people who played previous editions for a long time to not look at immediate and self damage and see the bigger picture. My Warlord, for example, using Encounter Powers in concert with another ranged attacker using only at-wills does a lot more aggregate damage than both of us using "selfish" Dailies. It isn't the perfect solution, and I've had a group try the old 15-minute work day but once they got a better understanding of the system they found out that really weren't making very good choices. [/QUOTE]

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