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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6384394" data-attributes="member: 15700">As well as DM abilities as well.&nbsp; I.e., a group of 4 goblins almost took out our entire party of 4 1st level PCs because they kept using their hide as a bonus action and then moving.&nbsp; We'd get shot with arrows from random places and it felt like a real ambush from a frustration context any way <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; So a creative DM can make monsters a lot tougher than one who just throws them at you with no planning on their part.There are just so many factors that you really can't put into a nice simple formula, so what they have is pretty darn good as a general guideline.*edit*&nbsp; also, and this doesn't necessarily relate to the OP, but just because a PC dies, doesn't mean the encounter was not balanced.&nbsp; PC death should be a real risk to an adventurer, or why play out combat at all?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6384394, member: 15700"] As well as DM abilities as well. I.e., a group of 4 goblins almost took out our entire party of 4 1st level PCs because they kept using their hide as a bonus action and then moving. We'd get shot with arrows from random places and it felt like a real ambush from a frustration context any way ;) So a creative DM can make monsters a lot tougher than one who just throws them at you with no planning on their part. There are just so many factors that you really can't put into a nice simple formula, so what they have is pretty darn good as a general guideline. *edit* also, and this doesn't necessarily relate to the OP, but just because a PC dies, doesn't mean the encounter was not balanced. PC death should be a real risk to an adventurer, or why play out combat at all? [/QUOTE]

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