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<blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 7843278" data-attributes="member: 1095"><p>I don't see the difference in a powerful NPC foe swooping in to "kill" the king vs. a dragon swooping in to "eat" the king to really be any different from an encounter perspective personally. </p><p></p><p>You apparently do, so I guess great that you see that distinction. For me, they're the same thing, same scenario.</p><p></p><p>I think you're either a) being presumptuous to assume exactly what players "won't roll with without build-up" or b) maybe projecting your own viewpoints a bit too hard on the generic "players" you're talking about here. I'm telling you that my experience with my players is that they would roll with this kind of a scenario. I've never done the exact thing, but now I'm tempted to just as a social experiment. </p><p></p><p>I'm also not sure why you keep calling this hypothetical NPC encounter/foe a GMPC either. </p><p></p><p>If you were to bring a Szeth-like NPC to waltz around with the party and beat all their enemies, I can see it being obnoxious and obviously a GMPC. But for setting up a mid-tier bad guy or even campaign BBEG I don't see someone who is above the PC's power level as "obnoxious". Certainly not if I can build it with PHB+1 and it would be Adventurer League legal. </p><p></p><p>Obnoxious is a really strong word for something that could essentially be a plot point or starting point for a plot in a game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salthorae, post: 7843278, member: 1095"] I don't see the difference in a powerful NPC foe swooping in to "kill" the king vs. a dragon swooping in to "eat" the king to really be any different from an encounter perspective personally. You apparently do, so I guess great that you see that distinction. For me, they're the same thing, same scenario. I think you're either a) being presumptuous to assume exactly what players "won't roll with without build-up" or b) maybe projecting your own viewpoints a bit too hard on the generic "players" you're talking about here. I'm telling you that my experience with my players is that they would roll with this kind of a scenario. I've never done the exact thing, but now I'm tempted to just as a social experiment. I'm also not sure why you keep calling this hypothetical NPC encounter/foe a GMPC either. If you were to bring a Szeth-like NPC to waltz around with the party and beat all their enemies, I can see it being obnoxious and obviously a GMPC. But for setting up a mid-tier bad guy or even campaign BBEG I don't see someone who is above the PC's power level as "obnoxious". Certainly not if I can build it with PHB+1 and it would be Adventurer League legal. Obnoxious is a really strong word for something that could essentially be a plot point or starting point for a plot in a game. [/QUOTE]
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