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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evileeyore" data-source="post: 1380873" data-attributes="member: 1768">Its a Love/Hate thing...^||Is why I love D&D.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> People get so wound in the knickers over their own sense of self.However the threads original topic impinges on why I hate D&D.I have to 'roleplay' why I am taking certian classes, and can't learn there kewl abilities until I find a teacher?!?!?   I would leave to the game and never come back.To explain.  I multiclass.  Why you ask, well because Rogues aren't as good at fighting as Fighters.  Fighters can't cast spells, Clerics don't get Bardic Lore, and noone gets Fast Movement but Monks and Bararians.  Still don't understand?If I am playing a 'Light Fighter', who is supposed move fast on his feet, then moving only 30, like everyoneelse doesn't make much sense.  In this case I wold either take Barbarian (if I wanted Rage as well), a few Monk levels (if the abilities stacked nicely with what I was doing), or most likely PsiWarrioir (and just ignore most of the 'psionic' powers).At this point I have done all three at seperate times.The Barbarian/PsiWarrior who charged 120' around corners and up walls (I took Barb for flavor on this one).The Light Duellist with Monk.  Okay Monk, PsiWarrior, Fighter, Duellist, aiming for Tempest.  If I 'had' to rp all of that, it would be "Hohum, guess Ill play Rogue..."The Man Hunter (Ranger, Rogue, Fighter who 'cherry picked' Barb)  In the campiagn world 'Barbarians' were the Norse.  We were Thracian (think Roman, with the Emperor being your God).  My character was a Fanatic.  He pinned herectics to walls with daggers.  If I had to explain how he got trained to 'fill his heart with Holy Wrath' (Rage) or 'Press onwards with Holy Speed' (fast movement) by training with an infidel... well we'ld be done a few infidel and I never would have gotten Barbarian...The problem is inherent in thinking of the classes as 'set paths' from you 'may never stray'.  'Stay within the lines, the lines are your friends'.You might guess I had problems with coloring within the lines in kindergarten too.However I am not agians't 'training time', just a requiring a teacher.  I grant you its a stretch for the 18th level fighter too spontaneously whip out with a level of Wizard (even if he is an Elf, or a Dwarf...), but I would rather suspend disbelief a little for that than be stymied by draconic goose-stepping Dm practices.TTFN--EvilE</blockquote>

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