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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zombie_Babies" data-source="post: 6215476" data-attributes="member: 6750039">Yep, at this point it's more about learning the why to understand the person, IMO.  It's where things get interesting.  We're not gonna change each others' minds and that's ok.  We can, though, still pick up things about each other through continued discussion ... to a point.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Well that's a lot more reasonable.Me?  I'm all for equality.  If punching a dood in the face isn't enough to warrant my sleepy-time shooting then punching a woman in the face isn't either.  Women are a lot tougher than a lot of people give 'em credit for.  That's not to say that punching them is ok - it's not - but it's no worse (still bad) than punching a man.Equality means equal in all things - not just the ones that we don't feel squicky about.And that's a good thing ... to a point.  Really, if all we care about is how other people feel about what we did then there really isn't much point in having written law at all.  If she shot him during or immediately before a savage beating I'd actually be upset she was sentenced at all.  That's not what happened, though.My desire to see her punished for her crimes does not extend to anything that has to do with her daughter.  I don't necessarily want her daughter to grow up with her mother in prison but that's also not a decision I made.  Were she sentenced to prison, that would be a result of her actions - not mine.The thing is, it's not that she did one bad thing.  See, what she did was really bad.  She removed someone from the planet because she felt like it.  She made that decision - not some great authority.  It's not like she burnt dinner or pooped on the floor, she killed someone.  Dr Phil?  Fo' realski, brah?  *shakes head*  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Yep, it's an impasse.  That said, there's still some fun/benefit to be had. Time to explore the peripherals - if we feel like it.For the record, I'm not playing devil's advocate here.  I'm actually an NRA certified firearms instructor (Basic Pistol) and that means I can run the classes that issue people CHL certificates in the state I live that they can use to get their license.  Self defense - especially lethal - is something I take very seriously.  I don't think she should get a pass because she failed to satisfy the requirements for lethal self defense.  I realize that's not why she was given her pass but it has been a fairly popular argument in justification here.Don't sell yourself short.  You're easy to talk to and that makes you more persuasive than anything else.  Aside from that it's pretty rare to sway anyone's mind on the intertoobz.  Just not terribly common.</blockquote>

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