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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6223095"><p></p><p></p><p>Whether something is natural or not doesn't really illuminate whether it is moral, so I think arguments over whether men are naturally protective of women get us no where and take things beyond the simple principle of it is wrong for a man to hit a woman.</p><p></p><p>on the 'is it sexist front', all i can say is i am a man, so i decided to ask female friends of mine who are feminists (women who are very much active feminists who studied it in college or are out there trying to change things for the better) and i asked them specifically about this issue of whether its sexist to say men should not hit women and that there is a difference between a man striking another man and a man striking a woman. The response i got across the board was they agreed it is worse for men to strike womn and that this is a principle we shouldn't toss away lightly. They didn't see it as sexist because man on woman violence is something that perpetuates sexist power structures in place. Man on man violence dosnt perpetuate those power structures though it is still bad in its own way (these are their words, not mine). I am sure there are also feminists out there who disagree, but something about the argument bein pg made here (that men and women are equal so we shouldnt treat men punching women differently than women punching men or men punching men) feels like it is mysogynistic juijitsi, a kind of "mens's rights" movement rhetorical tactic of throwing "equality" back in the faces of feminists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 6223095"] [SIZE=4][/SIZE] Whether something is natural or not doesn't really illuminate whether it is moral, so I think arguments over whether men are naturally protective of women get us no where and take things beyond the simple principle of it is wrong for a man to hit a woman. on the 'is it sexist front', all i can say is i am a man, so i decided to ask female friends of mine who are feminists (women who are very much active feminists who studied it in college or are out there trying to change things for the better) and i asked them specifically about this issue of whether its sexist to say men should not hit women and that there is a difference between a man striking another man and a man striking a woman. The response i got across the board was they agreed it is worse for men to strike womn and that this is a principle we shouldn't toss away lightly. They didn't see it as sexist because man on woman violence is something that perpetuates sexist power structures in place. Man on man violence dosnt perpetuate those power structures though it is still bad in its own way (these are their words, not mine). I am sure there are also feminists out there who disagree, but something about the argument bein pg made here (that men and women are equal so we shouldnt treat men punching women differently than women punching men or men punching men) feels like it is mysogynistic juijitsi, a kind of "mens's rights" movement rhetorical tactic of throwing "equality" back in the faces of feminists. [/QUOTE]
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