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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8686131" data-attributes="member: 67338">no, and like I said ffrom the begining, useing an action to generate advantage will as often if not more often put the creature ddoing it at a disadvantage. this disconnect would cause an issue for me both in the DM role and the PC role.right and i even showed up thread how with three off the cuff examples how it could be fun or not... that in and of itself i see little value added to the game by this soft rule.and I see none of those as great moments... especially since on the paladens turn he can stand from prone and attack the orc... making the orc basicly just skip his turn for no effect. but it doesn't... the orc will never act again before the PC can stand... that is why it is a BAD EXAMPLE... it&nbsp; added nothing.lets try putting this in a more real situation...the paliden is 55ft infront of the rogue and cleric.&nbsp; the Paliden is engaging with a great axe orc, the rogue and cleric each have 2 goblins on them... the Orc pushes the paliden and he falls prone... as you said &quot;Raising his hand to bring his axe down oon the next action&quot;&nbsp; a) one of the other PCs takes a shot to kill the orcb) no one takes a shot at the orcno matter a or b the player will be able to use half his movement to stand from prone...if anything if the rogue threw a knife and sneak attack killed the orc that is WORSE then hitting the goblins... becuse the paliden uses half movement to stand and can not close with the goblins but could have attacked the orcc. give them something to do sounds great... it is what that something is that is making me say this is a bad idea....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8686131, member: 67338"] no, and like I said ffrom the begining, useing an action to generate advantage will as often if not more often put the creature ddoing it at a disadvantage. this disconnect would cause an issue for me both in the DM role and the PC role. right and i even showed up thread how with three off the cuff examples how it could be fun or not... that in and of itself i see little value added to the game by this soft rule. and I see none of those as great moments... especially since on the paladens turn he can stand from prone and attack the orc... making the orc basicly just skip his turn for no effect. but it doesn't... the orc will never act again before the PC can stand... that is why it is a BAD EXAMPLE... it added nothing. lets try putting this in a more real situation... the paliden is 55ft infront of the rogue and cleric. the Paliden is engaging with a great axe orc, the rogue and cleric each have 2 goblins on them... the Orc pushes the paliden and he falls prone... as you said "Raising his hand to bring his axe down oon the next action" a) one of the other PCs takes a shot to kill the orc b) no one takes a shot at the orc no matter a or b the player will be able to use half his movement to stand from prone... if anything if the rogue threw a knife and sneak attack killed the orc that is WORSE then hitting the goblins... becuse the paliden uses half movement to stand and can not close with the goblins but could have attacked the orcc. give them something to do sounds great... it is what that something is that is making me say this is a bad idea.... [/QUOTE]

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