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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 3026833" data-attributes="member: 111">No inconsistency at all.  The trip certainly replaces the normal damage, I think we all agree on that.  However, the extra energy damage requires only a succesful hit, and that's what happens here.  In addition, one cannot cause the energy damage to [n]not[/i] happen (if it's been activated), so it logically makes sense in the same way that a subduing weapon cannot convert such energy into subdual damage.The only potential consistency is sneak attack damage, but that's easily dealt with when one look at Sneak Attack holistically.  It's not really a question of vital areas as it is what is going on here.  The potential Sneak Attack is attempting to strike a vital spot whereas a trip is an entirely different kind of attack.  I could see the argument for allowing Sneak Attack, but it would not fly with me, at least.The thing one needs to do is look at the whole picture here.  Does a flaming weapon held to a piece of parchment set it afire?If yes, then I would think you get energy damage when tripping.If no. then I would think you would not.Think about it.  A flaming whip (for example) wraps around one of your legs (or arms, it does not matter).  Do you take fire damage or not?If nothing else, this area of the rules could use a little work, it seems.</blockquote>