Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3041983" data-attributes="member: 2011">This is a good point.But, does it illustrate that an opposed attack roll is not an attack roll? Opposed attack rolls do not compare against Armor Class, so are they then not attack rolls?If so, how do you resolve an opposed attack roll? Which rules apply? Strength modifiers? BAB?What if you are attempting a melee touch attack for a Cure Light Wounds spell? This is not damage. Does that mean that melee touch attacks do no use attack rolls?Since we do not have a definition of opposed attack roll, we have to use the rules we have in order to determine if it hits.We have rules for opposed checks. Do you not use the higher modifier wins on a tie rule of opposed checks for opposed attack rolls?The real question comes down to: is a successful attack roll always a hit. If you mean "hit" with regard to striking your opponent and doing damage, than the answer is no. If you mean "hit" as per the PHB definition of a successful attack roll (i.e. you rolled the dice, added modifiers, and the result is high enough to be successful), then the answer is yes.The real issue is that an attack roll merely determines a number. The determination of the success of that number and the results of what that number means is based on what you are using the attack roll for. But, the attack roll (including modifiers) itself does not dictate success, only when you compare it to some other number can you make this determination.Since we do not have a definition for opposed attack rolls, it is debatable. Just like how you resolve ties with opposed attack rolls is debatable unless you use the opposed skill rules.</blockquote>

Verification