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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Krieg" data-source="post: 2779609" data-attributes="member: 5282">*shrug* I have personally pulled magazine festooned load bearing gear off of an enemy combatant that had stopped no less than three M855 rounds....although he did suffer some lacerations caused by spalling.Anecdotal?Certainly.But I'm pretty confident it's far more relevant that "fun" experiments carried out under controlled condtions that have little in common with a tactical environment.Any possible contusion depends entirely on the surface area of rigid armor. Soft armor deforms upon impact which is what causes contusions, that is not the case with hard armor.  Well then I guess that we're pretty darn lucky that the primary kill zone on a human (ie the thoracic cavity) is roughly two square feet or less aren't we?You might want to look into the percentage of fatal casualties in the most recent middle east conflict that have been caused by firearms as compared to those of previous conflicts of a similar nature (removing both artillery & explosive devices from the equation to keep it apples to apples). Those numbers are staggering lower, and can be directly attributed to the use of improved body armor on the part of western combatants... what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make.</blockquote>