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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 2779783" data-attributes="member: 6390">You know, I see this all the time, "This site debunks XXXXX" but frankly, the sterile laboratory != battlefield conditions.I've seen men go down, the magazine deformed and shrapnel wounds from the round shattering, still alive.Believe me, if you gave me a choice between a gunshot wound and carrying a 40 lb steel plate, I'd drop the gear to carry the plate.A .50 caliber round is not the death sentence it once was. There have been documented BATTLEFIELD cases of people surviving a hit that 20 years ago would have turned thier torso into hydrostatic shock jelly. A rather famous photo from early in 2003 showed a British tanker whose kevlar helmet was hit 3-4 times by .51 Cal Soviet heavy machine gun, who survived, and was smiling. It chewed up the helmet, gave him whiplash, and knocked him silly.30 years ago, his head would have turned into a canoe.Take a look at the stastics.The majority of deaths (I think it sits in the 80% bracket) are due to IED's, NOT torso shots, which now result in cracked ribs at worst, wind knocked out of you at best. The Center for Army Lessons Learned had a large breakdown that while the amount of wounded soldiers is far more than to be expected, the amount of kills thus far is equal to a bad MONTH in Vietnam.My wife is alive due to a Desert Storm Era kevlar vest. My brother is alive due to a Interceptor Vest. I'm alive due to a Desert Storm Era kevlar vest and helmet.The vests and helmets have saved a LOT of lives. CALL, DARPA, and DoDMC facts, figures and documentation back it up.--------------------------As for laser weapons never stopping, that's not true in atmosphere. Attenuation and diffusion, as well as atmospheric contaminates, do lower the power of the beam. An energy wavelength tight enough to cause damage would also rapidly lose power as it would be unable to as easily overcome objects.</blockquote>

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