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Message: <blockquote data-quote="robberbaron" data-source="post: 3510098" data-attributes="member: 14771">Having must re-read Enervation I think I agree with Cal.A caster's effective level is reduced for details of spells but whether or not a caster can cast a spell of a given level is a function of his class, not the spell.Certainly, if a caster took a negative level then any detail of a spell that took level into account would be lowered, but I think that a 5th caster with a negative level would still be able to cast 3rd spells, if he had more than one to start with.That is how I see it and how I will rule in my game. I don't expect anyone to agree but that doesn't matter - each GM does what he thinks is correct/best.[Edit} as a support to my argument I quote from the DMG p.293:"-1 effective level (whenever the creature's level is used in a die roll or calculation, reduce it by one for each negetive level)"</blockquote>