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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the_myth" data-source="post: 3675246" data-attributes="member: 20081">What an interesting way to avoid being quoted, Harmon...You said:"When someone comes in and talks about how little skill or talent is in a forum like this, I find it offensive. It is belittling. You say that you cringe at our lackings, have you thought that maybe some of us have given all we can, that you speaking up is little more then yelling- "hay, stupid!" in the face of one of your students?"You know, I empathized with you right up until this communicative turn.What's the title of the thread?  What is our topic?  If you were offended by this sort of discussion, perhaps you should have moved along...I cannot speak for the original poster, but I read his intent to creating this thread as a means to vent WITHOUT yelling in someone's face.How dare you tell us we can't do that because you were offended that we get irritated by bad language skills [which, btw, you DO NOT seem to have, so I'm not exactly sure what the problem is].  This is a perfectly acceptable topic, especially in a writing-heavy forum.You said:"I realize you called no one out, that you mentioned no names, and I could have done this without verifying my lackings to this crowd, but I felt you should know that some of us have fought just to get here. Fought harder then you can imagine, and yet we have not gotten to where you were when you walk out of Junior High."You have chosen to participate in a writing-based forum.  And you have apparently attempted to do so with enough skill to make yourself understood.  I have observed people in many forums who do not even make this attempt.  To paint yourself as some sort of victim is disingenuous.  You have acknowledged the shortcomings Life has handed you and attempted to address them.  Simply because you still come up "short" is no reason to personalize general comments because they hit too close to home for your comfort.You said:"Sorry, I just feel that you do not understand, and I wanted to throw in some change, from those of us lacking in ability and talent.This is not a personal attack, so much as it is a personal defense. I am sorry if you take offense, you are a teacher and that give you a special place in my soul.Peace, and kind thought"This is an interesting rhetorical move.  First, you cast yourself as a victim, then you praise the "teacher" for knowing more than you.  You're "offended" because someone complains about poor writing [not necessarily yours] and you feel "belittled" because someone has seen enough bad writing [again, not necessarily yours] to feel the need to scream and find support with other like-minded ENWorlders.Um..I hate to say it, but this wasn't all about you, nor even necessarily anyone LIKE you.  You're right when you claim to be "defensive," but in the end, that's your issue.  While opinions, both consenting and dissenting, abound in all public forums, it seems clear to me that you're simply not the sort of person who most of us get annoyed at online.  Unless of course, the care you spent crafting this post is not indicative of the normal quality of your writing.  If such is the case, perhaps you really did need to be "put on notice."  All writing should be written with the reader in mind.  If you're just writing for yourself, then don't expect anyone to understand you besides you.</blockquote>

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