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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9482968" data-attributes="member: 7037866">So... did I convinced you that crits don't really favor monsters more than PCs? I mean, that was your point before but now you said it is &quot;regardless&quot; of that point.Which originally it never did, but I blame Dragon Magazine for bringing it into the game and 2E for making it official! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The attack roll is binary: hit or miss. What number you hit on doesn't matter. If I need an 8 or 9 (typical), it doesn't matter if I roll an 8, 13, 19, or 20--they all hit. If you roll a 1, 4, or 6 they all miss. A 1 isn't any better or worse than a 7. And a 9 isn't any better or worse than a 20.I find it mildly amusing when someone says &quot;I missed by 1!&quot;&nbsp; Consider this image of a d20:[ATTACH=full]382744[/ATTACH]If you needed to roll an 8, but got a 7, why do you think you missed by 1? The 20 is right next to the 7, but the 4 is one facet away also. I know perfectly well what they mean, but it has no bearing on the fact that they missed. It might not make sense, but it is just the way I see it.They would not want something exciting on a 20 if it really favored the monsters.Take critical fumbles on a 1. Most groups don't use them. Why? Because PCs are more likely to fumble because they roll more often than monsters. It isn't a lot more, but groups notice it IME, and so fumbles are generally rejected.Anyway, we can disagree on this, it isn't a big deal as far as I am concerned, but frankly I have never had anyone demonstrate how critical hit rules actually favor monsters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9482968, member: 7037866"] So... did I convinced you that crits don't really favor monsters more than PCs? I mean, that was your point before but now you said it is "regardless" of that point. Which originally it never did, but I blame Dragon Magazine for bringing it into the game and 2E for making it official! :) The attack roll is binary: hit or miss. What number you hit on doesn't matter. If I need an 8 or 9 (typical), it doesn't matter if I roll an 8, 13, 19, or 20--they all hit. If you roll a 1, 4, or 6 they all miss. A 1 isn't any better or worse than a 7. And a 9 isn't any better or worse than a 20. I find it mildly amusing when someone says "[I]I missed by 1![/I]" Consider this image of a d20: [ATTACH type="full" width="132px"]382744[/ATTACH] If you needed to roll an 8, but got a 7, why do you think you missed by 1? The 20 is right next to the 7, but the 4 is one facet away also. I know perfectly well what they mean, but it has no bearing on the fact that they missed. It might not make sense, but it is just the way I see it. They would not want something exciting on a 20 if it really favored the monsters. Take critical fumbles on a 1. Most groups don't use them. Why? Because PCs are more likely to fumble [I]because[/I] they roll more often than monsters. It isn't a lot more, but groups notice it IME, and so fumbles are generally rejected. Anyway, we can disagree on this, it isn't a big deal as far as I am concerned, but frankly I have never had anyone demonstrate how critical hit rules [I]actually[/I] favor monsters. [/QUOTE]

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