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<blockquote data-quote="xen_xheng" data-source="post: 2679972" data-attributes="member: 36331">As defined in the D&amp;D glossary,<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&amp;term=Glossary_dnd_rend&amp;alpha=" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&amp;term=Glossary_dnd_rend&amp;alpha=</a>&quot;If a creature with this special attack (extraordinary) hits with the specified natural attack, it latches onto the opponent's body and tears the flesh. A rend attack deals damage equal to the creature's natural attack + 1-1/2 times its Str modifier. The creature's descriptive text gives the exact amount&quot;.So a Troll, who does 1d6 with each claw, does 2d6+1.5xSTR (since the natural attack that enables&nbsp; him to Rend is 2 claw attacks). I'm not sure if this interpretation is right, but since it works for the troll, I'll use it for now.Now the question:What happens if the creature (let's pick the Troll) is enhanced by prestiges or magic?For example, lets see at a Lvl3 Swashbuckler Troll, with improved natural attack and amulet of mighty fists +2. Let's suppose a bard friend to the troll chants and gives him +2 to hit and damage (inspire courage). And let's finally assume he has Power Attack and use it.The total damage the Troll is dealing with his claws is 1d8+2(Enh)+2(Moral)+INT+STR+POW[INT and STR are bonuses due to Intelligence and Strenght ability scores (if any), POW is the extra damage due to Power Attack]What happens when he rends?Does he deal double the claw damage (without counting STR) and add 1.5xSTR?Does any (or all) of the bonuses to his claw damage not count? If they don't, which ones, and why?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="xen_xheng, post: 2679972, member: 36331"] As defined in the D&D glossary, [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_rend&alpha=[/url] "If a creature with this special attack (extraordinary) hits with the specified natural attack, it latches onto the opponent's body and tears the flesh. A rend attack deals damage equal to the creature's natural attack + 1-1/2 times its Str modifier. The creature's descriptive text gives the exact amount". So a Troll, who does 1d6 with each claw, does 2d6+1.5xSTR (since the natural attack that enables him to Rend is 2 claw attacks). I'm not sure if this interpretation is right, but since it works for the troll, I'll use it for now. Now the question: What happens if the creature (let's pick the Troll) is enhanced by prestiges or magic? For example, lets see at a Lvl3 Swashbuckler Troll, with improved natural attack and amulet of mighty fists +2. Let's suppose a bard friend to the troll chants and gives him +2 to hit and damage (inspire courage). And let's finally assume he has Power Attack and use it. The total damage the Troll is dealing with his claws is 1d8+2(Enh)+2(Moral)+INT+STR+POW [INT and STR are bonuses due to Intelligence and Strenght ability scores (if any), POW is the extra damage due to Power Attack] What happens when he rends? Does he deal double the claw damage (without counting STR) and add 1.5xSTR? Does any (or all) of the bonuses to his claw damage not count? If they don't, which ones, and why? [/QUOTE]

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