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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1483319" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>Yep, just like it should be stated one way or another for the spell slots.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it does say what happens, the rules are very clear for this point. So it is moot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But the game does say what happens to your skills when your stats drop.</p><p></p><p>It, however, does not state what happens to all of your bonus spells when your stat drops. It would make an already incredibly powerful spell that much more so. That is not needed, nor wanted, nor warrented.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The game tries to state things that happen as best as possible. These things need to be stated so that people know what is going on. Too bad it isnt.</p><p></p><p>There is no 'general rule' that these things are exceptions to, because the spell rules arent like the +'s from stats.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What basic rule? What page is it on? Where does it state that loseing the stat will make you lose those bonus spells?</p><p></p><p>Not be able to gain them if you were to get your spells right now? Sure. But that isnt the point at all, you already have them, the job is already done.</p><p></p><p>so you cant 'gain' them right now? who cares? you already have gained them. Now, what happens when the stat goes down. Why would you lose them? There is no general rule for that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>yep, and so it cant/shouldnt be able to be 'unprimed' so rapidly just by losing a few points of stats. Good example. Works perfectly for my case <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The way I suggest is perfectly consistant with the raw, until a general rule or specific rule can be found. Finding exceptions to an unwritten rule is not helpful, unwritten rules are by definition not useful in these sorts of debates.</p><p></p><p>with the plus side that the way I am advocating is much less abusive than the way you are stating. If I have to choose between the two I will choose my interpretation of the raw. You may stick with your interpretation if you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1483319, member: 5777"] Yep, just like it should be stated one way or another for the spell slots. But it does say what happens, the rules are very clear for this point. So it is moot. But the game does say what happens to your skills when your stats drop. It, however, does not state what happens to all of your bonus spells when your stat drops. It would make an already incredibly powerful spell that much more so. That is not needed, nor wanted, nor warrented. The game tries to state things that happen as best as possible. These things need to be stated so that people know what is going on. Too bad it isnt. There is no 'general rule' that these things are exceptions to, because the spell rules arent like the +'s from stats. What basic rule? What page is it on? Where does it state that loseing the stat will make you lose those bonus spells? Not be able to gain them if you were to get your spells right now? Sure. But that isnt the point at all, you already have them, the job is already done. so you cant 'gain' them right now? who cares? you already have gained them. Now, what happens when the stat goes down. Why would you lose them? There is no general rule for that. yep, and so it cant/shouldnt be able to be 'unprimed' so rapidly just by losing a few points of stats. Good example. Works perfectly for my case ;) The way I suggest is perfectly consistant with the raw, until a general rule or specific rule can be found. Finding exceptions to an unwritten rule is not helpful, unwritten rules are by definition not useful in these sorts of debates. with the plus side that the way I am advocating is much less abusive than the way you are stating. If I have to choose between the two I will choose my interpretation of the raw. You may stick with your interpretation if you like ;) [/QUOTE]
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