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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1484301" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>Is there a general rule for spells with which you are coming to this conclusion? No? Do you have anything useful to back up your statement? No? hmm..</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It isnt relevant in the way you are trying to use it, or if it is then it is in dire needs of being clarified.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Luckily it isnt a 'magic bag'. At the time when I got the spells to cast for the day (from resting and such) I got X number of spells. After that it doesnt matter if my stat changes. All that changes is the number of spells I would get 'if I rested and regained my spells right now'. Big difference.</p><p></p><p>Something is changing either way, but how it is applied at the time we are coming to different conclusions, and I feel that mine leads to much less abuse.</p><p></p><p>This isnt directly like skills, but it works in a similar fashion in one regard. If I climbed a mountain earlier today and at the top my strength gets drained I dont suddenly fall all the way down the mountain, I have already gotten to the high point.</p><p></p><p>Same way with the spells, I have already received the slots, I am not going to lose them simply by having the amount that I 'would have received' go down.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you are saying that if you are feebleminded, and then cured nearly instantly then you would lose a whole lot of spells for the day, with no ability to get them back? Not a chance, that just doesnt wash. For an effect that huge I believe that the spell description would make mention of it, if for no other reason than reminder text.</p><p></p><p>Your ability to rest and regain 'new' spells has gone down, but that does not mean that your ability to retain your 'current' spells goes down. The two do not necissarily meet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Says you. The slots that you 'could get' if you rested dissapear and appear willy nilly, but that doesnt mean that already prepared slots do the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, the effects of the stat change, but the effects that the stats have 'already done' do not.</p><p></p><p>It seems to me that you are trying to make the rules do something that they do not and there is no indication in the rules to do what you are proposing.</p><p></p><p>The way I have said poses less abuse, in that light it is much better. It also seems to follow the raw just fine, pretty much to the t. So which would you pick?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1484301, member: 5777"] Is there a general rule for spells with which you are coming to this conclusion? No? Do you have anything useful to back up your statement? No? hmm.. It isnt relevant in the way you are trying to use it, or if it is then it is in dire needs of being clarified. Luckily it isnt a 'magic bag'. At the time when I got the spells to cast for the day (from resting and such) I got X number of spells. After that it doesnt matter if my stat changes. All that changes is the number of spells I would get 'if I rested and regained my spells right now'. Big difference. Something is changing either way, but how it is applied at the time we are coming to different conclusions, and I feel that mine leads to much less abuse. This isnt directly like skills, but it works in a similar fashion in one regard. If I climbed a mountain earlier today and at the top my strength gets drained I dont suddenly fall all the way down the mountain, I have already gotten to the high point. Same way with the spells, I have already received the slots, I am not going to lose them simply by having the amount that I 'would have received' go down. So you are saying that if you are feebleminded, and then cured nearly instantly then you would lose a whole lot of spells for the day, with no ability to get them back? Not a chance, that just doesnt wash. For an effect that huge I believe that the spell description would make mention of it, if for no other reason than reminder text. Your ability to rest and regain 'new' spells has gone down, but that does not mean that your ability to retain your 'current' spells goes down. The two do not necissarily meet. Says you. The slots that you 'could get' if you rested dissapear and appear willy nilly, but that doesnt mean that already prepared slots do the same. No, the effects of the stat change, but the effects that the stats have 'already done' do not. It seems to me that you are trying to make the rules do something that they do not and there is no indication in the rules to do what you are proposing. The way I have said poses less abuse, in that light it is much better. It also seems to follow the raw just fine, pretty much to the t. So which would you pick? [/QUOTE]
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