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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pyk" data-source="post: 1484450" data-attributes="member: 14254">Under the bard description, it poses that the 'number of spells a bard can cast' is regulated by Charisma. Under sorcerer it says the same thing. So, if these two classes get Charisma damage, does this mean they can still cast all their spells?Seems pretty self-explanatory, at least to most people.It works absolutely nothing like skills. It is not a skill, it is an ability. In that way, it actually works more like a feat.If a character has spring attack, which qualifies the character for whirlwind attack, then climbs into full plate armor, can the character commit a whirlwind attack?No, because the character no longer qualifies for whirlwind, as the full plate armor negates the spring attack feat. Therefore, while wearing full plate armor, the whirlwind feat is also not available.Same with the spells. While the ability (damaged or otherwise) is lowered, the character no longer has the requirements for the spell slots. If the spell slots are not there, then they cannot have any spells in them, so they are lost.You don't 'receive' slots, you 'qualify' for slots.Yes, because as soon as you've been feebleminded, then you no longer qualify for the spell slots, so the spell slots can no longer have any spells in them, as they do not exist.Now, THAT'S a mature response.Yet, the stats do not have an effect. They allow the character to meet the requirements for certain feats, and abilities.The way you have said is actually an abuse of the rules, not limiting abuse. If the 'effect' of the ability has already been accomplished, then why can one not continue using Dodge feat if one's Dexterity drops below 13? In the case you have posed, then one may continue using the Dodge feat after receiving Dexterity damage as the 'effect' of the ability, i.e. qualifying for the feat, has already been done. Sadly, this is not true. It does not mean that losing the Dodge bonus from the feat means that person you were fighting earlier suddenly damages you. It means that the person you are currently fighting might be able to a little easier, from that point on.Same with the spells, obviously. It does not mean the magic missile you cast an hour ago didn't happen, which is a silly analogy to make in the first place. It means that the spell slots you currently qualify for is reduced. If that means you lose some uncast spells, then it means you lose some uncast spells.Either way, the caster in question, having the prime ability damaged, no longer qualifies to have those spell slots, so can no longer have spells prepared in slots he no longer has.</blockquote>

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