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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1493392" data-attributes="member: 5777">Hmm.. lets see.. neither of those passages contradict one another in any way. Read them again. Pay attention to the words. There is nothing contradictory in them. I am trying to not get insulting, but really, if you are going to post about something, claim it is contradictory, and then say that is why I am wrong at least post something where your statement is true. At some point your strawmen arguements are going to make me stop treating you civily.Which, again, has no bearing. The spells were prepared earlier, the amount you would get 'right now' if you rested 'right now' (and thereby have entotal, assuming that your current amount didnt already match or exceed it. Remember that whole reading thing, you even quoted the posts where I said this! think about what things mean, it will help you in the future.)Supposed to have, if they rested right now, or at this moment. Good thing they arent.No where does it state that you lose those spells, that part you are simply making up whole cloth. Until you find your mystical grail, that so far doesnt exist, your entire arguement is based on an assumption that you cannot prove true.Again, no bearing. At the time of preperation he got his spells, which were based on level and stat. Fine, done. That is what the books say.Now you are trying to come in after the fact, place rules in the books that dont exist, make assumptions off of your virtual rules, and then claim you are correct and your way is the only one-true-way. It doesnt work like that, sorry. Find a rule that proves what you say is true, otherwise you are just making unfounded assumptions. That is a Bad Thing (tm).Everywhere? if by that you mean 'nowhere', then sure. If anything the way you are touting is much more illogical because of the rules problems it creates and the bookeeping it requires (which has generally been kept to a minimum as much as possible). Therefore the way I have said is the more logical approach, as it is more balanced and easier, along with going straight by the core.Ahh.. making up rules again. If you are going to keep doing this then why are you in the rules forum? there is already a forum for you.Except it doesnt say what you are trying to extrapolate it to. Just because you want it to say something really hard doesnt make it change. It still doesnt say what you are saying it says.You need to make this statement a bit clearer, I think you have a point in there somewhere, but it is being blocked by poor word useage. That or you are just confused, either way though. No one here is disputing the fact that if your stat is high enough to gain bonus spells, at the time you are fully rested, that you get those bonus spells. So if you would be kind enough to clear your thought up a bit perhaps I could respond better.You must be talking about the one with the items that grant enhancements, and the specific ruling that when you take it off you lose the spells it granted. Great, another exception in an item that is already riddled with them. It does not say in general, nor does it even word it as such. It says that is what happens for that one item. Like the one I quoted above? all right, see above.</blockquote>

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