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<blockquote data-quote="jayoungr" data-source="post: 6755188" data-attributes="member: 6702445"><p>That's what happened in my campaign. There are a few references to that option in the book, so clearly the designers saw it as a possible outcome. It's just that the other two scenarios have more consequences for the PCs and/or easy ideas for follow-up events.</p><p></p><p>I suspect this is a casualty of the page count; we know that a section transitioning between HotDQ and RoT was cut from the second book, since there is a published map showing a giants' hall that didn't get used in the printed product. You can find some people's ideas on how to use the map <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/2tecqh/rot_ideas_for_the_cut_chapter_about_the_giants/" target="_blank">at this link.</a> Note that the map shows a crashed flying castle, but if the group didn't crash the castle in your game, you could always make that the ruin of another one, perhaps an ancient one (an early experiment in flying castle magic?).</p><p></p><p>Negotiating with the giants to join the alliance could still be a part of the game, much like the negotiations with the metallic dragons and the Red Wizards. Perhaps Blagothkus sends for the PCs because he is having trouble persuading the other giants to join his cause, and he wants the PCs to address the giant moot. The fact that they did not attempt to seize the flying castle should be a point in their favor. (If you decide to do this, it would be good to come up with a list of potential demands and concessions for the giants, similar to the one for the metallic dragons.)</p><p></p><p>Or if you don't want to spend a lot of time on it, you could just say that Blagothkus is grateful to the PCs for their help and that when the time comes, the giants will join the fight against Tiamat. You could even have him say this before the PCs leave the flying castle, if they haven't already done so.</p><p></p><p>As for Blagothkus' motivations, one small addition satisfied my group. I had Blagothkus state that it was better when the giants were united against the dragons because now, they fight amongst themselves instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jayoungr, post: 6755188, member: 6702445"] That's what happened in my campaign. There are a few references to that option in the book, so clearly the designers saw it as a possible outcome. It's just that the other two scenarios have more consequences for the PCs and/or easy ideas for follow-up events. I suspect this is a casualty of the page count; we know that a section transitioning between HotDQ and RoT was cut from the second book, since there is a published map showing a giants' hall that didn't get used in the printed product. You can find some people's ideas on how to use the map [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/2tecqh/rot_ideas_for_the_cut_chapter_about_the_giants/]at this link.[/url] Note that the map shows a crashed flying castle, but if the group didn't crash the castle in your game, you could always make that the ruin of another one, perhaps an ancient one (an early experiment in flying castle magic?). Negotiating with the giants to join the alliance could still be a part of the game, much like the negotiations with the metallic dragons and the Red Wizards. Perhaps Blagothkus sends for the PCs because he is having trouble persuading the other giants to join his cause, and he wants the PCs to address the giant moot. The fact that they did not attempt to seize the flying castle should be a point in their favor. (If you decide to do this, it would be good to come up with a list of potential demands and concessions for the giants, similar to the one for the metallic dragons.) Or if you don't want to spend a lot of time on it, you could just say that Blagothkus is grateful to the PCs for their help and that when the time comes, the giants will join the fight against Tiamat. You could even have him say this before the PCs leave the flying castle, if they haven't already done so. As for Blagothkus' motivations, one small addition satisfied my group. I had Blagothkus state that it was better when the giants were united against the dragons because now, they fight amongst themselves instead. [/QUOTE]
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