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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Motorskills" data-source="post: 7179801" data-attributes="member: 15921">Well I would argue "no", since AFAIK we have no evidence that even ancient dragons can cast 9th level spells. But to be clear, that's not what KarinsDad is suggesting - in the case of Iymrith, we are discussing essentially amping up her innate shapechange ability that older dragons get (for....reasons), and working on the best way to replicate and enhance that. Shapechange is (IIRC) a concentration spell, and I don't want Iymrith to "pop out" the first time one of my players Novas her. I love the idea of Iymrith only revealing her TRUE POWER FORM (TM!) when the players think they have nearly put her down... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But I will definitely read up on the Shapechange spell, if it replicates what we are heading towards, all well and good. Or maybe druidic Wild Shape would be a better analog, I'm not adequately familiar with that one either?Edit: to be clear, I am not saying I would never use dragon to dragon shapechange, but I am selective when I throw out the core rules. For an epic adversary like Iymrith, I would always intend to use the Monster Manual as a start point only.If I felt that a particular plot needed dragon-to-dragon to make it work, then sure. Otherwise I would steer clear.</blockquote>

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