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<blockquote data-quote="Veltharis ap Rylix" data-source="post: 9364652" data-attributes="member: 66357"><p>Going to disagree a bit - I think there's a bit of confusion over the order of operations.</p><p></p><p>Established terminology aside, I don't get the impression that the "Wizards Three" in this adventure were a pre-existing alliance between Alustriel, Mordenkainen, and Tasha. They may have known (or at least known of) each other in their mutual capacities as powerful wizards, but they only came together as the Wizards Three after Alustriel detected Vecna's machinations and reached out to Mord/Tasha for aid in combatting him.</p><p></p><p>Given the way that the Crown of Lies works, Kas would have needed to have already taken on Mordenkainen's form in order to intercept Alustriel's sending re:Vecna. That would suggest that Mord was never actually involved in this version of the Wizards Three at all - it was always Kas.</p><p></p><p>Kas joined up with Alustriel and Tasha to gather information and make use of their abilities/resources, but he presumably had no way of knowing that they would ultimately settle on attempting a three-caster wish spell he couldn't contribute to. Once they did, his only real options were to come clean about not actually being Mordenkainen (quite possibly putting his schemes at risk) or fake his participation in the casting and hope it either works with only two real casters anyway or that he can direct their backup plans toward something he can actually use (i.e. the Rod of Seven Parts angle) once the wish fails.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Veltharis ap Rylix, post: 9364652, member: 66357"] Going to disagree a bit - I think there's a bit of confusion over the order of operations. Established terminology aside, I don't get the impression that the "Wizards Three" in this adventure were a pre-existing alliance between Alustriel, Mordenkainen, and Tasha. They may have known (or at least known of) each other in their mutual capacities as powerful wizards, but they only came together as the Wizards Three after Alustriel detected Vecna's machinations and reached out to Mord/Tasha for aid in combatting him. Given the way that the Crown of Lies works, Kas would have needed to have already taken on Mordenkainen's form in order to intercept Alustriel's sending re:Vecna. That would suggest that Mord was never actually involved in this version of the Wizards Three at all - it was always Kas. Kas joined up with Alustriel and Tasha to gather information and make use of their abilities/resources, but he presumably had no way of knowing that they would ultimately settle on attempting a three-caster wish spell he couldn't contribute to. Once they did, his only real options were to come clean about not actually being Mordenkainen (quite possibly putting his schemes at risk) or fake his participation in the casting and hope it either works with only two real casters anyway or that he can direct their backup plans toward something he can actually use (i.e. the Rod of Seven Parts angle) once the wish fails. [/QUOTE]
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