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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 94725" data-attributes="member: 2011">I do not disagree with you.I was once a low level Mage in a 2E campaign where we had a very large dungeon that was virtually empty. After checking for traps for the umpteenth time, we finally got frustrated and decided to just walk through the place. Suddenly we were walking down a corridor when two walls dropped in place, sealing off 2/3rds of the party from the others. Gas started pouring in. The DM said that we each had a round to act before the gas knocked us out. Nobody else was capable of doing anything constructive. My Mage cast Reduce on the wall between us and the rest of the party before passing out. The other PCs were able to back away, wait for the gas to dissipate, and then rescue us.So, the spells can be useful. However, their utility is extremely limited, hence, most Wizards would rarely take them. If they had some real combat utility, at least they would get taken more often. Reducing the troll so that it no longer has reach and does less damage WOULD be useful if the designers had only put more effort into this area.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 94725, member: 2011"] I do not disagree with you. I was once a low level Mage in a 2E campaign where we had a very large dungeon that was virtually empty. After checking for traps for the umpteenth time, we finally got frustrated and decided to just walk through the place. Suddenly we were walking down a corridor when two walls dropped in place, sealing off 2/3rds of the party from the others. Gas started pouring in. The DM said that we each had a round to act before the gas knocked us out. Nobody else was capable of doing anything constructive. My Mage cast Reduce on the wall between us and the rest of the party before passing out. The other PCs were able to back away, wait for the gas to dissipate, and then rescue us. So, the spells can be useful. However, their utility is extremely limited, hence, most Wizards would rarely take them. If they had some real combat utility, at least they would get taken more often. Reducing the troll so that it no longer has reach and does less damage WOULD be useful if the designers had only put more effort into this area. [/QUOTE]

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