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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Banesfinger" data-source="post: 2166859" data-attributes="member: 9164">One huge problem that our group is currently looking at is all the size enhancing spells from WotC.- Animal Growth- Enlarge Person (also Mass)- Reduce Animal- Reduce Person (also Mass)- Righteous Might- Others?The main problem with all of these spells is that d20 does not even follow its own rules for size increases (from M.M. Table 4-2: Changes to Statistics by Size).  Every single one of these spells (above) uses a different set of stat changes.  As others on this message thread have pointed out, using the MM table would cause some of the spells to be too powerful, but why didn't they follow their own rules and just increase/decrease the spell levels accordingly?Huge problems with ballance already exist.  For example, compare Animal Growth (level-5) to Righteous Might (level-5).- Both are the same level- Animal Growth can affect multiple targets (Righteous Might is personal only)- Animal Growth is 1 min/level (Righteous Might is 1 rnd/level)- Animal Growth gets +8 str (Righteous Might is +4 str)- Animal Growth gets +4 con (Righteous Might is +2 con)- Animal Growth gets DR/10 magic (Righteous Might is DR/ 3 or 6 or 9 evil)- Animal Growth gets +4 bonus on all saves (Righteous Might gets none)(Note: Righteous Might numbers above are using WotC errata to the spell).By all accounts, Animal Growth is a far superiour spell (in the hands of a druid who summons natures allies, it can be deadly).  So currently, there is NO ballance anyway.I would have really loved to see WotC use a single table for size increases, and stick to it for all spells that involved size increases.</blockquote>

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