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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 372717" data-attributes="member: 1194">Leave it to you to suck the fun out of a rules discussion, Cal.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Sometimes the fact that this is a Rules Forum takes away some of the fun, but I'll stay within Rules boundaries.(I DO believe you understood the intent of my position, as evidenced by your personal coments at the end.)As for rules:Enlarge does NOT say that it doesn't increase the weapon size category.It DOES say that your gear grows bigger.It does NOT say that it does gain a size category.If you take the rules approach that "unless it explicitly states it in the rules, it doesn't happen", than you are treading a slippery slope.There would have to be about a hundred different places that they don't specifically re-word or clarify something, but they intend for something to happen.The rulebooks would be thousands of pages thick if they didn't use the contextual assumptions inherent in 3E rulebooks.Now whether you believe that a longsword that increases in size by a full 50% to be an increased size category (which you could easily prove by taking measurements) is not as important of a question as do you think the weapon should gain the benefit of the increased size category.Going back to the discussion we had about Enlarge and character size, the arguments against Enlarge increasing the characer's size category were 2-fold:1) It would overpower a first level spell (even if it took a 5th level mage to do it)2) If memory serves, the only in-game rationale for denying a 9'9" PC the benfits of reach and size category were that he and his system were not 'natively' Large size, and he couldn't properly take advantage of that size, since he didn't normally spend time in that form.Now both of those approaches are not applicable to a weapon-size increase, don;t you agree?1) in my strong opinion, It is not unbalancing to grant the size increase here.2) How can a larger size weapon possibly be nerfed to not do more damage? That the cell structure of the metal gets weaker as it expands, so it's not as dense, since it's not natively a Larger weapon?Come on....  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> How do you argue that a weapon that classifies as one level larger, isn't actually a size larger?The weapon is a larger size now.(too bad there isn't a specific table for weapon sizes to 'prove' this, but i think most people would agree that a Longsword that is increased by 50% would now 'technically' be a larger weapon size.)</blockquote>

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