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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1244878" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>"This spell causes instant growth of a humanoid creature, doubling its height and multiplying its weight 8. All equipment worn or carried by the creature is similarly enlarged by the spell."</p><p></p><p>You cannot infer that the word "similarly" means that it is not exactly twice as long (armor would have to be twice as big in each dimension to fit) and 8 times as heavy. A backpack in the same ratio as the creature would be twice as tall, twice as wide, and twice as deep, and carry 8 times as much normal equipment (items that leave the caster shrink back down, but new items do not grow).</p><p></p><p>Sure, the weapon size increase table indicates that it does a certain amount more damage for being upped a size.</p><p></p><p>But, that does not mean that the weight is not multiplied by 8. It is a spell. It is magic. If it multiplies the weight by 8, it does that. If the weapon goes from D8 to 2D6, it does that too, even if this does not make sense. It does what the spell states that it does.</p><p></p><p>Are you claiming that a longsword goes from 3 feet long, 2 inches wide and half an inch thick to 6 feet long, 4 inches wide, and an inch thick and its weight is only doubled in weight because the standard large weight rule takes precedence over the wording of the spell?</p><p></p><p>Nowhere in the "large weapon is twice as heavy" rule does it state that the weapon is actually twice as long. This spell, however, does indicate that the creature and his equipment is twice as long (in each dimension). The spell supercedes the normal rule (which is the real part of this that does not make sense).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1244878, member: 2011"] "This spell causes instant growth of a humanoid creature, doubling its height and multiplying its weight 8. All equipment worn or carried by the creature is similarly enlarged by the spell." You cannot infer that the word "similarly" means that it is not exactly twice as long (armor would have to be twice as big in each dimension to fit) and 8 times as heavy. A backpack in the same ratio as the creature would be twice as tall, twice as wide, and twice as deep, and carry 8 times as much normal equipment (items that leave the caster shrink back down, but new items do not grow). Sure, the weapon size increase table indicates that it does a certain amount more damage for being upped a size. But, that does not mean that the weight is not multiplied by 8. It is a spell. It is magic. If it multiplies the weight by 8, it does that. If the weapon goes from D8 to 2D6, it does that too, even if this does not make sense. It does what the spell states that it does. Are you claiming that a longsword goes from 3 feet long, 2 inches wide and half an inch thick to 6 feet long, 4 inches wide, and an inch thick and its weight is only doubled in weight because the standard large weight rule takes precedence over the wording of the spell? Nowhere in the "large weapon is twice as heavy" rule does it state that the weapon is actually twice as long. This spell, however, does indicate that the creature and his equipment is twice as long (in each dimension). The spell supercedes the normal rule (which is the real part of this that does not make sense). [/QUOTE]
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